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Re: Gloomberb

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post #64

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I h…

I don't know man, seems like a cool project and is open source. I guess he could have just sat on it and used for himself exclusively. It's auditable and totally fine for an open source project and nobody is forced to use it. It's free to use under the MIT license, what else can you really ask for.

I actually don't mean to bag on the author, but I think my complaint is valid. Maybe if they had a note right next to the curl command that said "This installs a single bun bundled executable. Here's a link to the GitHub releases if you'd like to install it yourself", that would be helpful.

My point about interpreted languages stands though. These bundled javascript runtime "apps" eat at least 500M of RAM on boot. That's totally not needed for a CLI tool. If it's not bundled, then it's even worse as you hit the supply chain and tooling interference problems (and you still use the same RAM). There are a lot of good, modern, compiled languages. CLI builders should pick up those stacks imho.

Re: Gloomberb

#173
post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://gloom.sh/cloud Is it? I see some kinda subscription, so there's gotta be some non MIT portion of it

That page seems to indicate that the subscription is to a real-time data feed, rather than the software itself—am I mistaken?

Unless you're paying to turn on access to purely a third party feed (which would be odd to me) there's some server side code taking those feeds and that the app is calling. Is that server code MIT licensed?

An open source interface to a proprietary backend isn't really fully auditable.

Re: Gloomberb

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it a bit less funny. There is this perception that what finance people do is super important and grown up but following a brief stint in the industry I realised it literally is just a game. We used to trade bits of stationery and trading cards for fun at school. They never stopped. The only difference is people who never consented to any of this are paying for it all, especially when it all goes wrong.

Why would a trader need your consent to make a trade with somebody else?

"Capitalism bad" is generally their point

Re: Gloomberb

#175
post #64

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I h…

yeah! agree. this shity approach when user solves technical problems.

Re: Gloomberb

#176
post #64

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I h…

>> Related: please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages!

... unless, of course, it's Perl. Right?

Re: Gloomberb

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a trader need your consent to make a trade with somebody else?

I assumed they were referring to market crashes caused by irresponsible levels of risks and deceptive practices like we saw in 2008, and/or government-funded bailouts

That was not caused by trading. It was caused by irresponsible lending and deceptive securitisation of that debt.

Trading can bring down a bank (e.g.Barings) but is not a big systemic risk.

Re: Gloomberb

#178

When I see new software now, my first thought is an LLM wrote it and it makes me not want to use it. I also assume there are bugs and it’s not particularly feature-rich.

same and for some reason people are downvoting. why would we use vibecoded stuff with sensitive information?

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Re: Gloomberb

#179
post #64

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I h…

disclaimer: I haven't seen the code

TS/JS is not the problem.

You can, and you should eject your dependencies and package them with your releases. And I don't understand why it's not a common practice.

You can even bundle your releases with a runtime, but that's not always the best solution. For something like this I'd actually prefer interpreted code I can inspect line by line rather than having a blob of unknown origin.

Re: Gloomberb

#180
post #8

Yeah... people aren't paying Bloomberg $31,980 per year for a TUI. They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

Asked a dear friend in the finance industry what he thought about Bloomberg. He's the type of guy who uses these systems daily. Mostly paraphrasing: 1) Bloomberg was lightyears ahead of anything else in the pre-internet days, so there's a lot of UI familiarity. 2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then…

The terminal is also sort of an app platform for brokers and other firms to sell services to the buy side.

A few examples:

1. As a researcher, you can develop indexes and portfolios, then make those available to customers via bbg

2. Goldman has a service that let's you buy equities via SWAPs, if a fund can't hold said equities for regulatory or operational reasons. The whole service is a series of menus within the terminal.

3. Many brokers offer automatic trading services like "sell this notional but do it very slowly" etc etc... they do that via bbg

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