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Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#171

I don't get it, Google could heavily subsidy their Gemini models to make it more attractive, but they prefer to not do it. I don't know one soul who is using Gemini models to code. Even OpenAI who doesn't have money or capacity is offering their Luna model at $1.2 per 1M/out.

What you're not seeing are the subsidized Google Cloud startup credits, which includes Gemini. If you're in that program, you choose Gemini because it's essentially "free" and consistent.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#172

Ever since the insane discount with GPT-5.6 Luna, not much excites me anymore. I mean just look at the benchmarks, even though Gemini 3.7 Flash performs well on the DeepSWE 1.1, Luna (Max) still performs way better. I personally have stuck to Luna (Xhigh) because its been more than enough and does not bloat up the context window too fast with reasoning tokens. https://deepswe.datacurve.ai > Starting January 1, 2027,…

> does not bloat up the context window too fast with reasoning tokens

How much does that matter if it's reset at every turn?

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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post #106

Here's a image->html test. Gemini has always swung above its weight class for vision work, so I'm always eager to try it with this. Original images: https://image.non.io/neonRamenDesigns.webp Gemini 3.7 build: https://html.non.io/neonRamenGemini3.7 Opus 5 build for comparison: https://html.non.io/neonRamen Opus is still best in class for this, but it's worth noting how well Gemini 3.7 does vs a more comparable LLM pr…

I'm not sure what prompt you put in but did Gemini replace the all of the images in the original with its own? That would be really weird behavior unprompted.

The prompt is a build step generated by my tool for image->html conversion, which includes APIs the model can call to generate images/patterns/svgs.

https://image.non.io/12275ee8-71e9-4941-823b-e51fec157b4d.we...

The agent is told to generate assets as part of the buildout. It gets to decide what the prompt is for them / whether to do postprocessing like background removal / what type of asset to generate.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#174
I was going to cancel my gemini membership today ..... still going ahead. In my experience, gemini 3.1 pro, 3.5, 3.6 flash constantly lie too much about completing their tasks whereas sol (even though equally dumb) never claims something has been done when it hasn't been.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#175
post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you doing this with Opus. Clearly I’m missing something. I always turn to ChatGPT when I need images because Opus typically refuses. I’ve tried Claude Code and Claude online in the past. I’m pretty sure neither created images for me and I thought this was because Anthropic was focused on code. I guess I need to try harder. :)

Images and build step were generated with my own tool ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48995754 - it's why I'm often running these img->html tests). Opus can't generate images since A\ doesn't have a diffusion model.

did you build your own diffusion model?

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#178
post #106

Here's a image->html test. Gemini has always swung above its weight class for vision work, so I'm always eager to try it with this. Original images: https://image.non.io/neonRamenDesigns.webp Gemini 3.7 build: https://html.non.io/neonRamenGemini3.7 Opus 5 build for comparison: https://html.non.io/neonRamen Opus is still best in class for this, but it's worth noting how well Gemini 3.7 does vs a more comparable LLM pr…

There is some irony being a developer and reading along the lines of: "oh look at the comparison between these models executing a task for a few cents on a job i'd be charging 1k minimum"

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#179

Does Google believe people want fast models because they have some sort of evidence of that preference? Or are they no longer capable of delivering a Pro model?

I have read that "pro"/"opus"/etc models can actually be worse for everyday coding as they reason "too deeply" and turn over too many stones over-thinking the problem and potentially getting distracted. This feels absurd to me (my gut is "I want the SMARTEST model I can get!!"), but often I find that my experience of using a flash/sonnet model for every-day workhorse coding they are better. Its not the same thing, bu…

This is my experience at least.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

#180

I want to like Gemini models but my problem thus far has been a lack of coding chops. They still make mistakes, importantly, without correcting them for things like hallucinated API calls or code that doesn't run but they never bothered building or running. I know a lot of this can be fixed with workflows but it still feels like a failing. GPT-5.6 or Claude models haven't delivered to me non-running code in ages. Whe…

Try this one, it's a step jump in coding capabilities for me over 3.6.
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