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Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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So much negativity... I like the desktop app and am looking forward to testing it out.

I've been using it to vibe code a personal application while I'm using a more "powerful" setup for my main agent assisted coding, and I have to say that it's been very good so far. I just wished that it was easier to hand off some tasks to codex web, like I tried to do today as I was starting a boat trip.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#283

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

> App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

Product releases at large companies are slowed dow by coordination and resources more than actual development. (I'm an Electron maintainer who is currently working on better Linux support in the framework, and also a developer/PM for a commercial app that supports Linux.)

It's very likely that the Codex Electron app already "worked" on Linux back in February, as in someone internally could build and run it from source and start a chat session. That fact would have made it possible for a small team to make a business case and start getting support from ops, QA, CS, marketing, legal, etc. The engineers would spend their unlimited tokens on Linux-specific build, packaging, and platform integrations (remember this is a computer use agent) to take the app from a prototype to something a company could actually launch and support for millions of users.

Apps are also a moving target. The entire time building up to release, the Linux desktop app would have been getting feature and design updates for free from the updates going out on Mac/Windows/web. None of those other teams working on those features have have had the time (or the mandate) to coordinate with Linux engineers if they were building a separate app from scratch, and I suspect such a proposal would never have gotten off the ground.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#284
Interesting to see the Linux version released. On Windows, though, my experience with the new ChatGPT app since Codex was folded into it hasn't been great.

I'm a Codex user, and when it was still a standalone app it worked really well for me. Since it became part of the new ChatGPT app, the app feels noticeably slower and, at least on my machine, is currently using around 1.27 GB of RAM [1].

The old ChatGPT app, which has now been renamed "ChatGPT Classic", feels much faster and is using around 478 MB under the same conditions.

I have a reasonably powerful PC, so the difference is pretty noticeable. I assume Classic will eventually be discontinued, but so far the transition to the new app on Windows hasn't been particularly good for me.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/nQkneGL

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#285

For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?

The same as an OS with a UI. Discoverability, fewer actions per activity, easier navigation, faster to learn/lower skill floor, etc. Some highlights: 1. Much better multi-agent orchestration. The app supervises many agents, with different project views and built-in git worktrees, so agents can work on isolated copies of the same repo. It's easy to jump between tasks and see changes. I recall OpenAI wrote that CLI was…

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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#286

Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.

I made something similar using Tauri but there were visual inconsistencies between platforms thanks to webkit. At the time I remember thinking I wish I had used electron to buy cross platform parity. And I experimented with gpui from zed, that was even harder to work with. Of course they could chase performance, but ultimately time to market is the #1 factor right now, and coding agents still aren't good enough to ju…

> visual inconsistencies between platforms

Why do you care? If I chose platform X over Z, that is potentially because I like the visual particularities of this platform.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#287

Unrelated to this Linux release but I've been using the new ChatGPT desktop app since I annoying updated on accident, and I haven't had that great of an experience. I previously really enjoyed the Codex app. It was easy for me to understand and find what I needed. The conversation view provided the right amount of information without feeling too concise or full of jargon and the typographic hierarchy made it easy to…

My biggest gripe is now anytime I open a new session it hangs and I see the beachball spinner (mac) for a while before I can actually use the app again. It's pretty brutal.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.

Microsoft used to ship a Linux binary for Teams, but they stopped doing that. Guess the tech was lost.

It sucked.

Download Edge for Linux and use the PWA. It's still crap but at least it kind of works mostly.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#289

Nobody should be installing or using AI apps. Your browser is as far as they should go. Reminder that the macOS app went from "this is fairly well made" to "it downloads multiple gigabytes of random things and doesn't follow any design conventions nor standards" The Linux app will fail the same tests.

Uhh.. you can't do what codex/claude can do from a browser. Are you this out of the loop?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

#290

Nobody should be installing or using AI apps. Your browser is as far as they should go. Reminder that the macOS app went from "this is fairly well made" to "it downloads multiple gigabytes of random things and doesn't follow any design conventions nor standards" The Linux app will fail the same tests.

Uhh.. you can't do what codex/claude can do from a browser. Are you this out of the loop?

Copying webpages with no advanced knowledge? I really can not do this in any other ais except google.
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