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Mozilla says stricter antitrust measures against Google 'threaten Firefox'

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EU should heavily subsidize Mozilla, so that this is not necessary.

Mozilla wasted most of its money on crappy features no one wanted. They should not be subsidized by anyone.

It's not clear what this claim is based on. Most of its money? Firefox is an excellent browser, and probably much less funded than Chrome/Safari.

Re: Mozilla says stricter antitrust measures against Google 'threaten Firefox'

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Like many here, I think Mozilla has done a terrible job managing their money and they are largely to blame for the pickle they are in.

However, I don't see who picks up the reigns if Mozilla dies. Like it or not, Firefox is essential for a somewhat (increasingly less) open web, and (at least for now) Mozilla is essential to Firefox. For those who want to see Mozilla die but Firefox live on, what are the more likely outcomes in your opinion if Mozilla went down? Do you see a big corp (which it increasingly seems is the only way to keep up with the needed pace for a browser) stepping up?

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At this point I want Mozilla to fail. They're actively draining resources from people who want to protect the open internet.

How are they actively draining resources from people who want to protect the open internet?

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Judge Mehta's reasoning is obviously correct. > US federal and state competition authorities recently asked the court of appeals to overturn the part of Mehta’s ruling that permits these payments. You get the "competition authorities" you pay for. Decades of government-bashing, bureaucrat-bashing, sidelining and shit pay give you this level of institutional competence.

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Judge Mehta's reasoning is obviously correct. > US federal and state competition authorities recently asked the court of appeals to overturn the part of Mehta’s ruling that permits these payments. You get the "competition authorities" you pay for. Decades of government-bashing, bureaucrat-bashing, sidelining and shit pay give you this level of institutional competence.

Strong disagree. These payments are clearly massive tent pole of maintaining the monopoly and I think it was right for competition authorities to appeal them. In fact, IMO, Metha ruling was way to favorable for Google. Basically like, well, they did the crime but it's too much to disrupt so I guess we will nibble at the edges accomplishing little.

It sounds like you two agree.

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I love Firefox but feel little pity for Mozilla which receives $400+ million a year on search placement in their browser but spends only a tiny fraction on its development. The rest is wasted on greedy management and frivolous projects to give that same management an excuse to give themselves multi-million dollar payouts. Everyone's only in it for the money. There are no good or bad people anymore, only...unfortunate…

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Re: Mozilla says stricter antitrust measures against Google 'threaten Firefox'

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At this point I want Mozilla to fail. They're actively draining resources from people who want to protect the open internet.

How are they actively draining resources from people who want to protect the open internet?

? They make $680M a year and use it to shill for the very company responsible for destroying the open internet. Firefox hasn't been easy to recommend for over a decade now. Where on earth is that money going if not to drain money from projects that actually work for humanity?

I'm aware that this very revenue is what Mozilla is complaining about. But the CEO could get off his fat ass and do his job finding an actual business model instead of just being a parasite.

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