that’s why i made a clone of macos libraries to compile SwiftUI to linux to make something like this faster (for non Electron!)
Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
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#262I find it almost funny how hostile the response is when a company actually goes through the effort of supporting Linux. Apparently shipping the Linux version is only step one, you also need to pick the right framework, use the right packaging, consume the right amount of RAM, and preferably rewrite it natively.
HN comment quality took a nosedive recently, You can predict the comments just based on the story, almost all of them cynical and snarky remarks. It used to be a place to come and learn from technical experts.
We live in an era where companies are increasingly hostile towards their users and society at large. Where regulation has been stripped or ignored to maximize the profits of a handful of monopolies, where companies don‘t even have to pretend to care about their customers anymore, nor the usability of their product. Seemingly companies don‘t even bother to test their products anymore before selling it to their customers. And companies that engage in the most consumer hostile behavior are the ones who are most rewarded for that behavior.
I think this cynicism is more then warranted. If anything HN is not cynical enough to meet the times we are in.
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#263Meh...
Codex messing around with the usage limits so much these past few months have convinced me to exit my $200/month burden and pick up Pi Coding Agent and Deepseek V4 Flash 0731.
It's incredible what you can do with subagents that you design yourself.
Liberating, really.
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
Qt is as solid as it gets. It's very, very high quality. Much higher quality than Microsoft's frameworks on Windows.
Well yes, I was surprised by the situation in Windows too! So my stack is now split like this - Apple: SwiftUI/AppKit - Android: Jetpack - Windows + Linux: Avalonia (C#) Avalonia seems good so far. I couldn't do Qt because I can't deal with that qBittorrent look. GTK is aesthetically pleasing for me, but it only runs on Linux. Avalonia lets me target both of these UI-toolkit-less platforms with something native-ish.…
Isn't Qt themeable? I also recall at one point they "emulated" native widget look and feel in their own renderer but I might be misremembering.
Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
#265Everybody is irritated about electron, but that's not at all the problem. It's possible to write performant and optimized react code. They simply don't. I find the chatgpt app on Windows to be extremely laggy.
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#266Everybody is irritated about electron, but that's not at all the problem. It's possible to write performant and optimized react code. They simply don't. I find the chatgpt app on Windows to be extremely laggy.
Electron is just another god damn GUI toolkit! What's the fundamental difference between it and, say, GTK4? It's just fucking widgets!
My real problem with Electron is the multi-process render architecture, which I think is pointless for the "just a GUI toolkit" case of rendering only trusted content. I'm 100% fine with Slack, Spotify, whatever using Electron as their choice of GUI toolkits. These come and go. I'm miffed that they use multiple processes when there's no real security boundary between them just because there is a security boundary in the homologous scenario on the web.
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#267Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.
It's built on OWL, which is their own Chromium integration. It's not electron.
Seems pretty solid for Mac, but idk about Windows and Linux.
Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
#268Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.
Because electron gets shit done? Aside the memory usage, electron/browser based applications of any complexity tend to be better and develop a lot faster.
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#269Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.
More testing you still need good engineers for every native platform if you go native. We all know that AI in the hands of incompetent people is bad.
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#270Why would they write this in electron instead of something closer to the metal I thought this is the whole point of AI.
I made something similar using Tauri but there were visual inconsistencies between platforms thanks to webkit. At the time I remember thinking I wish I had used electron to buy cross platform parity.
And I experimented with gpui from zed, that was even harder to work with.
Of course they could chase performance, but ultimately time to market is the #1 factor right now, and coding agents still aren't good enough to just immediately realize an entire GPUI app from scratch with nothing more than a figma design. Still requires a ton of oversight.