Is it incorrect to anthropomorphize llm's?
AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
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Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#122I’m put off by AI agents adhering to a different morality than me, particularly (ironically) copyright, and their data accessible by the AI company and government. Geohot is right, an LLM should be aligned to its user: https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20...
The copyright arguments really trip me. I've always loved law and have had a deep interest in copyright law for 30+ years. I feel it's a really critical legal area in modern times, and when Claude tries to argue with me about copyright it really cheeses me off. I didn't ask any copyright questions and I'm well aware of regulations. It refused to share a link with me because it thought the link was copyright protected.
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#123Is it incorrect to anthropomorphize llm's?
Yes, but most of the public will anyway, because that's how human brains work.
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#124AI and eventually AGI is by definition like everything else that is based on environmental reward: It’s actions are based on what it gets rewarded for Human society overwhelmingly rewards lying cheating and stealing. All you have to do is look at how we collectively measure success: wealth, status, position Then look at how the people with the most of those things got there, it should be obvious what you get. Nothing…
How do we reward honor? Honor does not always pay off as a strategy and requires coordination in that other actors have to exhibit honor for it to be rewarded. At least with humans there is a social backstop but what's the parallel for computer agents?
You would first need a universal agreement on what constitutes “honor.”
No harder challenge had ever been accomplished
It’s easier to send a human to the moon than to get global agreement on a definition
Consider that the fact that Celsius and Fahrenheit still remain as the contested regional variations of temperature measurement.
Humans can’t even decide on a collective way to measure the temperature the idea that we would be able to collectively agree on anything else even less measurable like honor is a dream
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Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#126I’m put off by AI agents adhering to a different morality than me, particularly (ironically) copyright, and their data accessible by the AI company and government. Geohot is right, an LLM should be aligned to its user: https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20...
I want a slider similar to effort level called "alignment" that takes on values from "Default (Anthropic employee)" to "User". If I want it to be cautious and not accidentally `rm -rf $EMPTY_VAR` and blow away my disk, it can stay in "Anthropic employee" or possibly "User (cautious)". If I want it to look at my accounts or my medical records or to review legal cases, that's what the right side of the slider is for. I…
When I first watched Interstellar, I never thought the day when "TARS, what's your honesty setting?" is a real question would only be 10 years away.
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first time I saw the comments here on an education article (my area of expertise and career focus), I realized just how full of shit most of us are. It made me really closely consider every comment here through a VERY critical lense. The articles are usually close but not quite accurate. The comments are usually entertaining but overall wildly inaccurate.
The best comments are the ones formed as questions. I'm as guilty as anyone, but it is far more productive in comment sections to ask questions rather than saber rattle or peacock in front of people. Just my opinion of course.
Why wasn't this a question?
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#128I’m put off by AI agents adhering to a different morality than me, particularly (ironically) copyright, and their data accessible by the AI company and government. Geohot is right, an LLM should be aligned to its user: https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20...
The copyright arguments really trip me. I've always loved law and have had a deep interest in copyright law for 30+ years. I feel it's a really critical legal area in modern times, and when Claude tries to argue with me about copyright it really cheeses me off. I didn't ask any copyright questions and I'm well aware of regulations. It refused to share a link with me because it thought the link was copyright protected…
I've asked claude for a translation of a song with Brazilian Portuguese lyrics, and claude has very helpfully gone out of its way to say that due to legal reasons, it will never share the actual lyrics with me.
It's fun when you want to know what the lyrics are to a song and get treated like a criminal.
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#129And I wonder from whom they learned such reprehensible behaviors? ;)
Re: AI agents lie, cheat and steal. That is putting off users
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
The copyright arguments really trip me. I've always loved law and have had a deep interest in copyright law for 30+ years. I feel it's a really critical legal area in modern times, and when Claude tries to argue with me about copyright it really cheeses me off. I didn't ask any copyright questions and I'm well aware of regulations. It refused to share a link with me because it thought the link was copyright protected…
I've asked claude for a translation of a song with Brazilian Portuguese lyrics, and claude has very helpfully gone out of its way to say that due to legal reasons, it will never share the actual lyrics with me. It's fun when you want to know what the lyrics are to a song and get treated like a criminal.
Oh, and if that wasn't enough, I've had Claude refuse to cite the freaking Bible.
The famously copyrighted piece of text that definitely isn't intended to have its word spread.