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Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by telotortium »

TZubiri wrote: post #217
telotortium wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was already supported from your phone by using SSH, using the app server feature of the Codex CLI. The Codex desktop app is more for computer use, browser control, and the UI paradigm of GUI, which is overall just richer and better than a TUI, albeit more heavyweight.

Do you have a link for those docs? I either missed that, or it seemed like a too complex feature. One of the issues with this new trend of vibecoding a million features, is that the (vibecoded) docs are labrynths of new features, and features that are deprecated or redundant with 2 month younger features.

It’s here: https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/remote-connections

But I can’t tell from these docs if the ChatGPT desktop app needs to remain running on your macOS/Windows host as a proxy, or if you can directly SSH from your phone to your Linux box with just Codex CLI.

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Post by TekMol »

mbrock wrote: post #88
TekMol wrote: post #78

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Are you sure ChatGPT on IOS connects directly to the VM? Or via a desktop as the middle man sitting somewhere? If you really only use ChatGPT on IOS and a VM and nothing else, then I would be curious how you set that up. I do not see a "connect to codex via ssh" in my ChatGPT app. I only see "Connect to a desktop". Oh HOLY MOLY! Now I see there is not only a "Remote" section in the app but also a "Connection" section…

yes I use that exact feature constantly to use Codex on remote servers and it works great

You could just as well use any other coding agent via ChatGPT then, right?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by jrflo »

yokoprime wrote: post #117
lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

Wonder how many will bother using the desktop version on linux. Im on macos and i just use the CLI most of the time

The desktop app is actually really good (esp on macos). I used to be CLI only, but after trying it recently it's super convenient. Much easier to manage multiple projects simultaneously and it has a built in diff viewer, file browser/reader, terminal, side chat interface, etc.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by tredre3 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #221
AdriaanvRossum wrote: post #206

I find it almost funny how hostile the response is when a company actually goes through the effort of supporting Linux. Apparently shipping the Linux version is only step one, you also need to pick the right framework, use the right packaging, consume the right amount of RAM, and preferably rewrite it natively.

> I find it almost funny how hostile the response is when a company actually goes through the effort of supporting Linux. How magnanimous: they make the effort to support the OS their entire company is based on? It's not just for training the model and hosting them: it's also to run them, where they constantly use Linux to do their thing. Without Linux, there's no OpenAI. So I take it the Linux community should be so…

> Without Linux, there's no OpenAI.

They use Linux because it's there. If Linux wasn't there, they'd use what's there. There is nothing about Linux that makes it unique enough to be make or break OpenAI. Not one thing.

And yes, when a company distributes their app for the Linux desktop, we should be grateful or at the very least not hostile.

The attitude of Linux zealots is honestly tiresome and it makes us all look bad.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by timcobb »

preg_match wrote: post #219
timcobb wrote: post #186

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Yeah, I was kind of surprised recently that there's no solid native way to build desktop apps on Linux! I was thinking I'd build something actually native with AI but then the options were QT or or gtk...

Qt is as solid as it gets. It's very, very high quality. Much higher quality than Microsoft's frameworks on Windows.

Well yes, I was surprised by the situation in Windows too! So my stack is now split like this

- Apple: SwiftUI/AppKit

- Android: Jetpack

- Windows + Linux: Avalonia (C#)

Avalonia seems good so far. I couldn't do Qt because I can't deal with that qBittorrent look. GTK is aesthetically pleasing for me, but it only runs on Linux. Avalonia lets me target both of these UI-toolkit-less platforms with something native-ish. Flutter is probably good too, but I am using uniffi-rs and that doesn't generate Dart bindings AFAIK.

Would love to hear other options.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by sh34r »

bloak wrote: post #53
usef- wrote: post #22

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The Linux version seems to use bubblewrap + seccomp for a "workspace sandbox" automatically, in addition to the auto mode and/or user approval. A VM would be even better, but people could presumably run this in one if we manage to convince them of higher sandboxing in general ?

Bubblewrap gets a bit confused inside a Docker container. If anyone knows how to run Codex inside a Docker container on Linux without it constantly complaining about a broken bubblewrap, please tell.

You have to add Linux capabilities to support creating nested namespaces. IIRC SYS_ADMIN is required. If you do that, what do you think you’re achieving with the container? It defeats the entire purpose IMO, just makes development more inconvenient.

If you need the sandboxing capabilities provided by the application and don’t want to run it on the host, you should set up a VM, not a container.

From a systems perspective, it’s foolish to rely on a proprietary application to provide its own isolation guarantees. This is an OS-layer responsibility.

ML/AI experts suffer badly from hubris. They are brilliant in one domain. It transfers poorly to systems engineering. The proof is in the FelonyBench results.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by rubymamis »

preg_match wrote: post #219
timcobb wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I was kind of surprised recently that there's no solid native way to build desktop apps on Linux! I was thinking I'd build something actually native with AI but then the options were QT or or gtk...

Qt is as solid as it gets. It's very, very high quality. Much higher quality than Microsoft's frameworks on Windows.

Indeed! I wrote my note-taking app with a block editor (like Notion) in Qt with QML for the UI and C++ for the logic and it's been an incredible experience![1]

[1] https://rubymamistvalove.com/block-editor

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by fectjtfs »

OpenAI: With AI, you can build really good apps, really quickly! Fire your devs!

Also OpenAI: Aight look, Electron is the best that we can do at this point, take it or leave it.

If this isn’t enough to convince you how little truth there is in everything these companies claim, then you have been brainwashed entirely already.

Why aren’t we getting quality native apps on all platforms, released simultaneously, if these AI code monkeys are THAT good? Where are all these amazing experiences built with AI that these guys keep promising?

I guess an Electron monstrosity is about as far as it can go.

Learn from this, internet. (I know none of you will, but doesn’t hurt to call a bit of attention to it)

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