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DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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Opencode said they are working on matching the old prices using their own inference. Right now, they give 4100 credits for Luna and 63 000 for Deepseek on their prepaid plan (both are 2x)

I doubt they will match old cache read pricing- that’s most important in agentic coding.

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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As well as the headline in/out changes, people heavily using agentic coding tools will want to note the 6x (off peak) and 12x (peak) increase to cache hit pricing on Pro (since cache hit can easily make up 90%+ of input on long sessions). DeepSeek was hugely underpricing cache hit pricing before and even after this increase they're still cheaper on that metric than every other provider I'm aware of, but it will put a…

The problem with DS Flash/Pro is that they are extreme reasoning heavy and step heavy. Step = cache hit. Reasoning = output hit. So the impact on those price increases will be felt much stronger.

I think that Flash is still a usable model but Pro is DOA... Even before the price difference between Flash and Pro, vs the intelligence / problem solving / tool calling did not make sense. But now that gap has widen even more. And there are just too many competitors models now close to that Pro price range.

Especially when we compare that competitive models offer subscription services that easily cut down the token price by 1:10. That makes Pro especially a bad value.

We shall see what the 3th party market is going to do, but i suspect that prices will be increased. If the argument was that DeepSeek increases price as they lack capacity, a company with access to billions, other 3th party providers that need to rent and have less optimized infrastructures will increase prices. Especially if they get hit hard with people moving around.

Its like we always see the same issue with popular models.

* GLM 5.2 is good, capacity issues, API price up, subscription heavy nerfs. * Kimi K3 is good, capacity issues, API price up, subscription heavy nerfs. * DeepSeek V4 GA is good, capacity issues, API price up * OpenAI GLM 5m, 10m active users. Subscription usage is sneakily tightened more and more. * Anthropic Opus too popular, ...

That is the main issue. The AI users are people who actively easily move between companies. Pushing peak loads to each unprepared company, releasing load on the "less desired". And round we go ...

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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It doesn't make any sense unless they are going to exit from inference market. They will be literally one of the costliest option (by output, for flash) if use openrouter as source.

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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According to their post: (Input / Output / Cache Read, [$/M]) DeepSeek-V4-Flash: Prev: 0.14 / 0.28 / 0.0028 Off-Peak: 0.22 (1.6x) / 0.66 (2.4x) / 0.007 (2.5x) Peak: 0.44 (3.1x) / 1.32 (4.7x) / 0.014 (5.0x) DeepSeek-V4-Pro: Prev: 0.435 / 0.87 / 0.003625 Off-Peak: 0.66 (1.5x) / 1.98 (2.3x) / 0.022 (6.1x) Peak: 1.32 (3.0x) / 3.96 (4.6x) / 0.044 (12.1x) gpt-5.6-luna: $0.20 / $1.20 / $0.02 / $0.25 (In / Out / Cache Read /…

> EDIT: formatting Keep at it, I believe in you.

TIL: formatting tables on HN is computationally impossible. lol

p.s. Thanks DSv4-Flash, for your hard work of converting a messy table into plain text.

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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Old DeepSeek Flash 0731 prices have been independently reproduced.[1] The issue is DeepSeek being inundated and not having capacity to serve the demand, hence the price increases to significantly dampen demand. Never mind international demand either--just think about the magnitude of Chinese domestic demand. Prices for anything related to AI or computing in general (mobile phones, cloud data centre hosting, etc) will continue to climb fast as demand for computer chips _far_ exceeds supply. DeepSeek doesn't have an option other than to just work away on improving their technology in the period of time before computer chips once again become a commodity. For example, DeepSeek's cache ratio for their models apparently leads to 1/2 GPU time requirement versus the second best provider.[2]

[1] https://nitter.net/thdxr/status/2085377844515922210#m

[2] https://nitter.net/thdxr/status/2087610161636471289#m

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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post #13

Opencode said they are working on matching the old prices using their own inference. Right now, they give 4100 credits for Luna and 63 000 for Deepseek on their prepaid plan (both are 2x)

How could that possibly work? Deepseek was undercutting every other provider by an order of magnitude on cached tokens.

Do they just set a super low caching time and hope that drops effective cache rates low enough? Do all other providers somehow overcharge by that much? Are they just going to sell it as a loss leader?

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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About 3x increase. Luna is now a much better deal. Hope they don't increase their prices in response.

Luna has one vendor and they can change the price any time. Deepseek is open and has dozens of vendors competing to serve it.

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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post #21
post #13

Opencode said they are working on matching the old prices using their own inference. Right now, they give 4100 credits for Luna and 63 000 for Deepseek on their prepaid plan (both are 2x)

I doubt they will match old cache read pricing- that’s most important in agentic coding.

CXL might save us. All the world's old DDR4 to the rescue. Either per box, where the job has to route back, or network attached, where there's now a pool of absurdly fast temp storage.

Re: DeepSeek API Pricing Update

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post #26
post #13

Opencode said they are working on matching the old prices using their own inference. Right now, they give 4100 credits for Luna and 63 000 for Deepseek on their prepaid plan (both are 2x)

How could that possibly work? Deepseek was undercutting every other provider by an order of magnitude on cached tokens. Do they just set a super low caching time and hope that drops effective cache rates low enough? Do all other providers somehow overcharge by that much? Are they just going to sell it as a loss leader?

> Do all other providers somehow overcharge by that much?

This, I think. Cached inputs have an opportunity cost (keeping the KV cache until use) but a hit is basically free. “Basically” - if the cache is offloaded to system RAM or NVMe there’s some scheduling overhead.

From a consumer viewpoint a more interesting metric than the raw costs is

    cached cost * hitrate + input cost * (1 - hitrate)
from a personal standpoint rather than a per-provider one (e.g. if OpenRouter is blindly dispatching your requests you might have a bad time).
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