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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by joquarky »

pjmlp wrote: post #170
cloudie78 wrote: post #156

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If your hypothetical client as security measure ONLY permits VSCode on a dedicated box you’re obligated to work on and have no control over - then I pray for you. And for your hypothetical client. Especially as judging by your description they despite this allow any VSCode plugin to be installed alongside it. > and I am not making my life miserable to work with editors lacking the specific tools And that’s the self-i…

I see you never worked in enterprise consulting with either laptops or cloud VMs managed by customer IT, and where elevated actions require either IT tickets, or elevation tools with description fields why the operation is required, with development done with specific team accounts.

Why would anyone lack enough dignity to sign up for working in that kind of environment?

I would rather live in a shopping cart tent under a bridge.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by geysersam »

meerita wrote: post #34

What's the benefit of working with this app, which eats insane amounts of memory, instead of Codex CLI?

I think one advantage is that you can control it remotely via the chatgpt mobile app. I don't know why they don't allow that for regular codex...

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by bloak »

krzyk wrote: post #180
ab71e5 wrote: post #133

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Doesn't it automatically use bwrap if it's installed (in the container in this case)?

Don't install bubblewrap? I didn't and use codex in docker.

"Codex could not find bubblewrap on PATH. Install bubblewrap with your OS package manager. See the sandbox prerequisites: ... Codex will use the bundled bubblewrap in the meantime."

I think neither the bundled bubblewrap nor the Ubuntu 24.04 bubblewrap works properly under Docker with the default options ... Yes, I've just tested that by asking Codex to "Test that bubblewrap is working properly" and then "Test again" after apt-get install bubblewrap.

EDIT: So the solution is to run "codex --dangerously-bypass-approvals-and-sandbox" in a Docker container?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by joquarky »

2afTq wrote: post #224
krelian wrote: post #214

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HN comment quality took a nosedive recently, You can predict the comments just based on the story, almost all of them cynical and snarky remarks. It used to be a place to come and learn from technical experts.

The AI boosters have driven away all experts. They are either financially invested or mindless power users on the level of the proverbial MacOS fanboys. Experts related to real programming topics are gone or silent. AI experts have never even been here in the first place. It is all about Electron apps, prompts, agents and other bullshit.

This started before AI. I'd pin it on the crypto gold rush attracting knuckle-dragging brogrammers into the industry.

HR is charmed by them despite their lack of discipline.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by Beijinger »

Not sure what I should see under the Link provided. Here is another one:

https://community.openai.com/t/codex-in-chatgpt-desktop-app-...

"The desktop app is designed as a workspace for managing projects, working with files, using browser workflows, and running Codex alongside ChatGPT."

Not sure if I really understand this. And somehow I am worried about ChatGPT having access to my files and workflows. How much control do I have?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by thewebguyd »

disiplus wrote: post #190
timcobb wrote: post #186

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Yeah, I was kind of surprised recently that there's no solid native way to build desktop apps on Linux! I was thinking I'd build something actually native with AI but then the options were QT or or gtk...

You don't care what were you trying to build but for a quick me alone Linux app I used Flutter. Honestly it's my go-to when I want to have a quick native app on any platform but dont want to bundle electron.

Flutter is solid choice, and Canonical seems to be putting weight behind it for Ubuntu as well. Canonical is also now the new lead maintainer of Flutter Desktop.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by sh34r »

lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

The most remarkable thing is that it was built at all. What self-respecting Linux desktop user wouldn’t be satisfied with the TUI?

It is a marketing expense. We are talking about it. Surely the token cost was worthwhile on that basis alone. Students will likely get some usage out of it, too. But paying a human to do this port would have been an insane thing to do two years ago. I’d be surprised if they have more than 1000 MAUs for this client by the end of the year.

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Post by freedomben »

OroPla wrote: post #199
SyneRyder wrote: post #85

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I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.

Microsoft used to ship a Linux binary for Teams, but they stopped doing that. Guess the tech was lost.

I'm not usually one to defend Microsoft, but since Teams works great in a browser, I actually prefer it that way. My video conference doesn't need access to my whole filesystem and an opacity layer that prevents me from seeing what it does. I actually applaud them for supporting browsers as well as they do.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by thewebguyd »

blep-arsh wrote: post #226
timcobb wrote: post #186

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Yeah, I was kind of surprised recently that there's no solid native way to build desktop apps on Linux! I was thinking I'd build something actually native with AI but then the options were QT or or gtk...

QT and GTK are as native (and solid, I guess) as it gets, since there's no "default" UI toolkit that's shipped along with the kernel, unlike e.g. Windows or macOS. Speaking of Windows, why do they even ship browser-UI apps as a part of the OS? Do they find native Windows UI development too hard or feature-limited even with LLM assistance?

Because Microsoft screwed up their native UI story. They are slowly starting to go native again with WinUI3, but Microsoft went through a rough period with UI frameworks, I mean how many do they have now all still "supported"? WinForms, WPF, MFC, WinUI, MAUI, etc.?

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Post by thewebguyd »

criddell wrote: post #140
rvz wrote: post #99

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> They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron. Not even a $1T dollar company wants to maintain a native Swift Mac app even though they have AI models to build native apps for every platform. Maybe they thought Electron would save them tokens to build the feature once and it work…

Works everywhere except Linux for a long time. What better way to showcase their tools capabilities than to deliver apps that are native, efficient, and integrate well with the host system? By compromising with Electron and making mediocre, bloated software they are signaling that they just aren't there yet. It would be like Ford buying Hondas for their company cars. It might save them money but it sends the wrong me…

Yeah that's what gets me. If, according to them, "software development is a solved problem" then there's no reason they can't make native, efficient, well integrated apps for each platform. If the problem is solved, just have the AI do it! If it's truly as advanced and accelerating as they claim, then there's no need for electron anymore.
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