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Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by pjmlp »

cloudie78 wrote: post #121
pjmlp wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With exception of VSCode, because I have no choice due to some plugins, or apps required by customer projects where I have no other option as well, nothing else based on Electron pollutes my computers.

You always have a choice to use/learn/make a different tool. It’s a prison of your own making. I’ve personally adopted a process where I structure my projects to ALWAYS keep credentials and sensitive information in a separate directory. The working copy gets rsynced to and from a dedicated VM with whatever $HARNESS.

If I have to deliver in technology X, customer isn't going to be happy getting Y instead, and I am not making my life miserable to work with editors lacking the specific tools, or that are forbidden by customer IT to be installed on provided equipment.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by scott01 »

fg137 wrote: post #96
meerita wrote: post #34

What's the benefit of working with this app, which eats insane amounts of memory, instead of Codex CLI?

Outside Linux, on Windows/Mac, plenty of non developers much prefer the "desktop UI" experience over CLI. Some can't work with CLIs at all. Even with Linux, there are more people -- including many non software engineers -- that are installing Linux on their home computers and may be interested in this. Bear in mind that HN users don't remotely resemble the general population, or even employees at a tech company -- th…

I’m a developer, daily driving Linux, and prefer GUI apps. Would’ve used Sublime Text if clangd plugin worked. Hence stuck with Emacs. Open Code GUI sucks compared to their TUI though.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by ab71e5 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #59
bloak wrote: post #53

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Bubblewrap gets a bit confused inside a Docker container. If anyone knows how to run Codex inside a Docker container on Linux without it constantly complaining about a broken bubblewrap, please tell.

> If anyone knows how to run Codex inside a Docker container on Linux without it constantly complaining about a broken bubblewrap, please tell. Why would you even use bubblewrap once it's running in a container? I've been running Codex in a container since it was publicly available, not even sure what you'd use bubblewrap for when you already separated codex from the rest of your filesystem?

Doesn't it automatically use bwrap if it's installed (in the container in this case)?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by sonu27 »

lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

6 months is way too long IMHO

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by PunchyHamster »

SyneRyder wrote: post #85
lucideer wrote: post #72

The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.

It's the exact opposite. They picked the easiest way, done countless times just fine by everyone else and still failed

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by kilroy123 »

awakeasleep wrote: post #108
jonizzle wrote: post #79

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I hate the new app aswell but you can still get the old one called ChatGPT Classic. Just scroll down to the bottom of the download site.

Its unmaintained and has glaring bugs (cant adjust thinking level) for a month now

Yup, this pisses me off so much. I now just go to the web app instead of using this broken app.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by PunchyHamster »

fg137 wrote: post #96
meerita wrote: post #34

What's the benefit of working with this app, which eats insane amounts of memory, instead of Codex CLI?

Outside Linux, on Windows/Mac, plenty of non developers much prefer the "desktop UI" experience over CLI. Some can't work with CLIs at all. Even with Linux, there are more people -- including many non software engineers -- that are installing Linux on their home computers and may be interested in this. Bear in mind that HN users don't remotely resemble the general population, or even employees at a tech company -- th…

Can we instead replace them with LLM ? Surely it woudl be much easier

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by mgambati »

concinds wrote: post #77
darkwater wrote: post #76

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Exactly my thoughts! I was expecting a Rust app written from scratch available at least in Qt and GTK flavors , and maybe with a third and a fourth option. Don't they have agent swarms with infinite tokens?

They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron, which takes minimum 5GB+ including filesystem cruft. Today I ran into a memory leak that froze the app and made the Renderer process take 5GB, then 10GB of RAM. That was after I asked it to only touch 3 text files in its working direc…

It’s apple fault that swift and swift ui is completely garbage.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Post by criddell »

rvz wrote: post #99
concinds wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron, which takes minimum 5GB+ including filesystem cruft. Today I ran into a memory leak that froze the app and made the Renderer process take 5GB, then 10GB of RAM. That was after I asked it to only touch 3 text files in its working direc…

> They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron. Not even a $1T dollar company wants to maintain a native Swift Mac app even though they have AI models to build native apps for every platform. Maybe they thought Electron would save them tokens to build the feature once and it work…

Works everywhere except Linux for a long time.

What better way to showcase their tools capabilities than to deliver apps that are native, efficient, and integrate well with the host system? By compromising with Electron and making mediocre, bloated software they are signaling that they just aren't there yet.

It would be like Ford buying Hondas for their company cars. It might save them money but it sends the wrong message.

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