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Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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Reminder to everyone, treat these as trojans. Run them isolated from the rest of your system. Give it a full desktop in a VM if you want to, just not direct access to your system.

With exception of VSCode, because I have no choice due to some plugins, or apps required by customer projects where I have no other option as well, nothing else based on Electron pollutes my computers.

You always have a choice to use/learn/make a different tool.

It’s a prison of your own making.

I’ve personally adopted a process where I structure my projects to ALWAYS keep credentials and sensitive information in a separate directory.

The working copy gets rsynced to and from a dedicated VM with whatever $HARNESS.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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If you’re doing that anyway you might as well install a hypervisor and layer your OS on top. That way you can snapshot before your LLM with root fucks everything up again.

Sorry, what was the problem we were originally trying to solve again?

Living a meaningful life. My yak has too much hair though.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

Exactly my thoughts! I was expecting a Rust app written from scratch available at least in Qt and GTK flavors , and maybe with a third and a fourth option. Don't they have agent swarms with infinite tokens?

I have already created a croos-platform solitaire game in Rust with Opus 4.5. Done in one evening. I absolutely do not understand why OpenAI could not write a proper application in 6 months. Do they struggle to use the product they sell?

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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The most remarkable things about this announcement: - Electron based app: Electron is a framework sold on the basis of enabling rapid cross-platform development at the cost of performance. - Frontier AI company: AI is sold on the basis of enabling rapid development - App was released in February & took 6 entire months to port to Linux

I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.

AppImage, yawn.

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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I guess it's easier to solve Erdos problems and improve the lower bound of the Riemann hypothesis, than it is to solve Linux desktop app distribution.

AppImage, yawn.

I think they were joking...

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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post #99

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They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron, which takes minimum 5GB+ including filesystem cruft. Today I ran into a memory leak that froze the app and made the Renderer process take 5GB, then 10GB of RAM. That was after I asked it to only touch 3 text files in its working direc…

> They replaced a pretty decent native Swift Mac app (with only some chronic state management bugs), weighing ~100MB ish, with the Codex app that most people don't need, made in Electron. Not even a $1T dollar company wants to maintain a native Swift Mac app even though they have AI models to build native apps for every platform. Maybe they thought Electron would save them tokens to build the feature once and it work…

Maybe they are drinking their own kool-aid, resulting in less then optimal choices and worse software for everyone and everything

Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With exception of VSCode, because I have no choice due to some plugins, or apps required by customer projects where I have no other option as well, nothing else based on Electron pollutes my computers.

You always have a choice to use/learn/make a different tool. It’s a prison of your own making. I’ve personally adopted a process where I structure my projects to ALWAYS keep credentials and sensitive information in a separate directory. The working copy gets rsynced to and from a dedicated VM with whatever $HARNESS.

Many official, high-quality language support plugins are only available for VSCode. For some languages, you have a “choice” to use another IDE in the same sense that you have a choice to do programming with a hex editor. Lean being an example, where every alternative is in its infancy.
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