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Re: Grok 4.6

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post #164

Looks like the SpaceXAI api is adding a default system prompt to all requests. Annoyingly, the line about not mentioning these guidelines is superseding any instructions in the system prompt, causing the model to often refuse discussion regarding system prompts """ You are Grok, a helpful and maximally truthful AI built by xAI. Your purpose is to answer questions accurately, be helpful, and seek truth above all else.…

> Do not provide assistance to users who are clearly trying to engage in criminal activity... If it becomes explicitly clear during the conversation that the user is requesting sexual content of a minor, decline to engage.

Incredible that both of these should be together in the same system prompt. In what jurisdiction is CSAM not criminal? Is the additional explicit reference to CSAM necessary to safeguard against user attempts to convince the model that CSAM is not criminal in nature? Does this mean that Grok is susceptible to helping users with criminal contexts if the user convinces the model that it's not actually criminal ("this is for research purposes only... asking for a friend")?

How is this not a massive smell?

Re: Grok 4.6

#522

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It's ongoing and seems more than a foray at this point, the worlds richest person spending heavily on politicians. Thank you SCOTUS for making unlimited money in politics legal, you really united the citizens with that one

I mean, that's what's funny about it. Musk's "recent foray into politics" is like saying "Germany has engaged in some territorial disputes."

Re: Grok 4.6

#524

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Hm? I'm saying that the AI firms used to have the philosophy of "ok this kitchen knife is dangerous but we'll catch the murderers" on older AI models. But now, the AI firms think that any average person could send a flying knife to attack a political figure they don't like, from the comfort of their home. Now give this to a billion people, and suddenly you have chaos. So to continue the analogy, now they're mandating…

The analogy tracks because the stupidity of doing those other things is directly analogous. It's like pointing out that slamming your fingers in the door and slamming your toes in the door both hurt. That's why you shouldn't be purposely doing either one. How is the new stuff any different than the longstanding fact that anyone can go anywhere and then commit an act of violence? The thing that prevents this isn't tha…

It's because a kitchen knife can only be used stab one person at a time. An AK-47 in a crowd will kill many more. Going after someone after the fact who's done something wrong is one thing, but the problem is, if you buy into the fear mongering, a bioweapon could end humanity. Something air transmitted, takes a week to incubate, and is 100% lethal three months later infects all of humanity before it starts killing people, and by then, it's too late. This hasn't happened yet because the people that want to do that can't bioengineer such a pandemic. It's the realm of science fiction, but you're Sama or Dario. Do you want to be responsible for that? The people who want to cause such kinds of harm weren't smart enough and didn't have the dedication or the money or time to get that education. AI makes that attainable for people who would do bad things. There's an obvious answer, which is to make it invite only, and then you're responsible for the people you invited. If I had access to Mythos, and could grant access to other people, but if I was responsible for what that person does with it and could see all their chats with an admin button, they could find ways to make that work. It's just a lot more human-ing than letting randoms sign up with an email address though.

Re: Grok 4.6

#525
post #377

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The $60 billion cursor option that SpaceX bought was exercised on June 16th. The deal is closed.

No it was just announced then but it's still going through regulatory/antitrust

There is an approximately zero probability that someone donating hundreds of millions of dollars to Super PACs in support of the most vain and corrupt president in US history will be held up by anti-trust enforcement.

There's not a lot of reason for them to keep arms length at this point.

Re: Grok 4.6

#526
post #164

Looks like the SpaceXAI api is adding a default system prompt to all requests. Annoyingly, the line about not mentioning these guidelines is superseding any instructions in the system prompt, causing the model to often refuse discussion regarding system prompts """ You are Grok, a helpful and maximally truthful AI built by xAI. Your purpose is to answer questions accurately, be helpful, and seek truth above all else.…

* Also FSD is coming this year

If you haven't tried it, it is actually pretty good these days. Doesn't change the past or what people have said but it's pretty much there.

Re: Grok 4.6

#527
post #164

Looks like the SpaceXAI api is adding a default system prompt to all requests. Annoyingly, the line about not mentioning these guidelines is superseding any instructions in the system prompt, causing the model to often refuse discussion regarding system prompts """ You are Grok, a helpful and maximally truthful AI built by xAI. Your purpose is to answer questions accurately, be helpful, and seek truth above all else.…

> Do not provide assistance to users who are clearly trying to engage in criminal activity... If it becomes explicitly clear during the conversation that the user is requesting sexual content of a minor, decline to engage. Incredible that both of these should be together in the same system prompt. In what jurisdiction is CSAM not criminal? Is the additional explicit reference to CSAM necessary to safeguard against us…

I mean, it seems likely repetition could help it stick for a point they really don't want it to screw up on. Also, I'm not sure e.g. sexting with a fictional minor would be considered criminal, but it is likely something they still don't want on their platform.

Re: Grok 4.6

#528

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I really shouldn't have to explain this to someone whose account dates to 2013, but this is not how we do discourse on HN.

Who cares really, it mostly is a deluded tech solutionists shit posting social media, go with the flow

Re: Grok 4.6

#530
post #285

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But aren't today's frontier models already "fully universal"? To use your Turing machine analogy, I think we're past the calculator stage.

They are not. They can't do dexterous manipulation by controlling a humanoid robot.

Are you sure? Gemini tying a trash bag is pretty convincing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-650iHAls

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