Nice bicycle chain, the little basket with a fish didn't show up in the right place: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht...
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813
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#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
50% cache hit is really low - in a standard agentic loop you should expect like 99%+ cache hit percentage (which should also lower that $12.50 to like a couple of $ for the same amount of tokens). If you're using a customised harness you should make sure you don't have something that's e.g. changing your system prompt on some requests or rewriting history - it can be tempting to do stuff like strip old thinking token…
In my experience, that's the OpenRouter tax. Even a session that does everything right to remain sticky ends up getting moved between providers on a few requests, which bills you the full context as input every time the switch happens. I assume it's done as load balancing/latency mitigation, but it's put me off of OpenRouter for my use cases (limited use, limited need for changing models).
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#373Nice bicycle chain, the little basket with a fish didn't show up in the right place: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht...
For a while now, I've found pelican rendering to be an unreliable metric for LLM ability - and most people know it. Yet, somehow it gets upvoted to the very top of every new model discussion.
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#374Just tested through openrouter.. gave exactly same task.. the task was to scan existing repo, and generate a single docker-compose file to deploy behind a caddy server, where certain port ranges are already used, the service demands widlcard certificates to be provisioned from outside, and postgre needs to be built-in one... Tested this model, and gpt-5.6-terra-high. Results: this one had few issues. terra: none. The…
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#375So flash is 52 points on artificial analysis, and pro is 53
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#376Is having padded version numbers with a leading zero a common thing? Wondering, sorry if it's a dumb triviality to ask. Is this even a (sub-)version number? I mean the major version is clearly 4.
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#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
IME I can't trust it to write it's own plans from a spec, but if I give it a detailed execution plan written by Opus, it's fast and cheap (if chatty) in executing it.
Interesting. I use Flash for making the plans and GPT for execution.
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#380Nice bicycle chain, the little basket with a fish didn't show up in the right place: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht...