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Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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I have never met a single human being who uses Grok for coding

I've never met anyone who uses grok for anything. I had assumed it was a Twitter/X thing and only the truly lost souls remain on that website.

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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post #192

I have never met a single human being who uses Grok for coding

I use Grok 4.5 High Fast in Cursor (Agentic window), and it's a genuinely great model. I don't give a shit about Elon's politics in the same way I don't give a shit about Dario or Altman's politics.

Hell yeah

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Man, I got ready to debunk this but just questioned my life choices instead. Why the fuck am I glued to my smartphone arguing with people posting shit like this instead of spending time with my daughters, creating new things or looking after my own body and soul. Michael, please copy your comment verbatim into any LLM with search capabilities and ask for primary sources that confirm or deny your statements, and break…

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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I avoid Grok for meaningful token spend on purpose/boycotting. I do check in via openrouter occasionally to check it's chat performance which has seemed fine to me since 4. My total grok spend has been ~$2. I disagree with his politics to a huge degree. My token spend at api rates is about $3000 usd a month recently.

Which part of his politics?

the nazi salute, for one

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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The main issue I have with grok is that Musk, its owner, did 2x seig heil at the presidential inauguration, and proceeded to gaslight the world about it (this is a strong form of dogwhistling, kind of a dog bullhorn). Therefore all services which have anything to do with Musk are ineligible for use - they are directly funding the worst kind of person.

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explain to me what it was, if not a seig heil.

did he just cough and his arm did that, twice?

does he have some form of muscle spasming thing im not aware of?

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Why? The timing was precise, the motion was precise, his facial features were grimaced with intense determination. I cannot fathom calling it anything else, and I see denying it as a kind of shibboleth for "we know but we are pretending it wasn't, wink wink nudge nudge". Either it was deliberate, or the richest man on earth is so incompetent that he accidentally made a motion exactly mimicking a seig heil while welco…

You can find pictures of AOC and Mamdani doing the exact same gesture. It’s obviously a common gesture when emoting to crowds. But you just want to believe the narrative. If you’re worried about Nazis, take a look at all the pro-Hamas people.

I've seen the claimed pictures in context with their videos, they are distinctly different gestures in timing and emphasis - normal waves, without the sharp hand to chest -> locked elbow with hand outstretched motion. Again, the seig heil is a particular gesture with a particular emphasis and timing which Musk imitated precisely, twice in quick succession. Those other photos are decontextualized from gestures which were clearly different motions entirely.

You're spouting easily refuted nonsense, and then immediately making ad hominem attacks because your points are extremely weak and not backed up by the evidence you vaguely cite.

You're also getting ratioed because people here are not idiotic ideologues. Please do better.

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I'll also leave you with a nice quote from Sartre which was directed at the fascists of the time - we've seen this shit before, we know what you're doing:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Musk has had very little to do with the actual Success of Tesla and SpaceX and a LOT to do with the recent failures of Tesla, with his constant lies about FSD and the epic failure of the Cybertruck. Tesla hasn't had a new CAR model since 2020! I'm so tired of people mindlessly assuming past "success" is a guarantee of future success in completely different industries and technology. This just proves how little they a…

You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’d read any biography of him you’d know how utterly wrong your claims are.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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post #280

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They’ve already contracted with Intel to use A14 for the initial buildout so that solves the process tech problem.

Not at all

They aren’t building this fab tomorrow. By the time it is ready to start producing chips I expect 14A to be in production

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Out of interest, do Musk's politics impact your decision on whether or not to use Grok? I'd be interested to know where folks lie on the (Agree / Disagree) and (Use / Don't use) axes.

Interesting question. I suppose it comes down to how much you allocate his involvement or presence to a product? I’d imagine Grok is built by hundreds of engineers who are all unique individuals from various backgrounds. If Elon simply “leads” from a very surface level where he has no direct day to day involvement in Grok releases does that make it more palatable? Or is the question really about how involved he is? O…

its pretty on the record that musk takes a direct role in writing the system prompts, no? and is eager to make updates if whatever ml products arent sufficiently matching the specific politics and musk adoration that he wants it to?

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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I avoid Grok for meaningful token spend on purpose/boycotting. I do check in via openrouter occasionally to check it's chat performance which has seemed fine to me since 4. My total grok spend has been ~$2. I disagree with his politics to a huge degree. My token spend at api rates is about $3000 usd a month recently.

Which part of his politics?

agitating for pogroms in ireland is the most recent one
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