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Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by cageface »

vmg12 wrote: post #6
jimbob45 wrote: post #2

Of all the myriad projects from Google, how is Flutter/Dart the one that survived the axe? I’m not saying I hate them - I think they’re both really neat - I just don’t understand why Google keeps these limping along with weak support and no clear vision within their broader web ecosystem.

Easy, there are a few google teams that use flutter and the cost savings from not having to have dedicated ios and android teams is very easy to point at to justify the project's existence. I think Dart and Flutter are very overlooked. The language has completely changed since its release, its statically typed, has null safety, enums, and pattern matching, and is very simple and easy to read. It has fast compilation…

I’ve had good experiences with Flutter too. It’s actually much easier to build a performant macOS app with flutter than with SwiftUI.

Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by matchbok3 »

gumby271 wrote: post #10
jimbob45 wrote: post #2

Of all the myriad projects from Google, how is Flutter/Dart the one that survived the axe? I’m not saying I hate them - I think they’re both really neat - I just don’t understand why Google keeps these limping along with weak support and no clear vision within their broader web ecosystem.

How are they limping? Flutter has completely replaced it's rendering engine across all platforms and they're building out major window management support on desktop platforms. At some point there's just not much exciting new stuff to add. Flutter is a nice stable platform, I'd highly recommend it.

Right, but, nobody uses it. So what's the point for Google?

Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by formvoltron »

vmg12 wrote: post #6
jimbob45 wrote: post #2

Of all the myriad projects from Google, how is Flutter/Dart the one that survived the axe? I’m not saying I hate them - I think they’re both really neat - I just don’t understand why Google keeps these limping along with weak support and no clear vision within their broader web ecosystem.

Easy, there are a few google teams that use flutter and the cost savings from not having to have dedicated ios and android teams is very easy to point at to justify the project's existence. I think Dart and Flutter are very overlooked. The language has completely changed since its release, its statically typed, has null safety, enums, and pattern matching, and is very simple and easy to read. It has fast compilation…

Curious how you feel about KMP and Kotlin Compose.

Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by vmg12 »

formvoltron wrote: post #17
vmg12 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy, there are a few google teams that use flutter and the cost savings from not having to have dedicated ios and android teams is very easy to point at to justify the project's existence. I think Dart and Flutter are very overlooked. The language has completely changed since its release, its statically typed, has null safety, enums, and pattern matching, and is very simple and easy to read. It has fast compilation…

Curious how you feel about KMP and Kotlin Compose.

I like kotlin a lot but I didn't get to fully test KMP and Kotlin Compose. I chose flutter because I liked dart's wasm story better than kotlins.

Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by gkhartman »

matchbok3 wrote: post #16
gumby271 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they limping? Flutter has completely replaced it's rendering engine across all platforms and they're building out major window management support on desktop platforms. At some point there's just not much exciting new stuff to add. Flutter is a nice stable platform, I'd highly recommend it.

Right, but, nobody uses it. So what's the point for Google?

Is that true though? I'm reading HN on an app built using Flutter. I had no idea until recently, so I would assume more apps could use it without my knowledge.

I understand it's limitations vs native apps, but there's quite a few cases where it really doesn't matter.

The biggest one for me is always the fear it will be abandoned. Pretty much goes for any cross platform app framework though.

Re: Flutter 3.47

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Post by Larrikin »

vmg12 wrote: post #6
jimbob45 wrote: post #2

Of all the myriad projects from Google, how is Flutter/Dart the one that survived the axe? I’m not saying I hate them - I think they’re both really neat - I just don’t understand why Google keeps these limping along with weak support and no clear vision within their broader web ecosystem.

Easy, there are a few google teams that use flutter and the cost savings from not having to have dedicated ios and android teams is very easy to point at to justify the project's existence. I think Dart and Flutter are very overlooked. The language has completely changed since its release, its statically typed, has null safety, enums, and pattern matching, and is very simple and easy to read. It has fast compilation…

But they also fund JetBrains, Jetpack Compose, and KMP. It feels like the company threw their support behind Kotlin a long while ago on mobile, but internal struggles keep the others limping along. Compose UI tooling no longer requires viewing on device.
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