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Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by brazukadev »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #83
FooBarWidget wrote: post #36

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How do you have any kind of trust in these tools? They always feel like one prompt injection away, or one over eager agent away ("I'll lookup a forgotten credential in an email to ssh into a server to hack a system in order to fulfill your request"), from disaster. I don't trust any AI session unless I carefully select the exact files they have access to. No way do I dare sharing my entire mailbox.

Very weird for this to be downvoted. It's a legitimate concern. It's also a legitimate question: where do you get your trust from? Do you have guardrails? Or is it really just blind trust?

> Very weird for this to be downvoted.

sama was the CEO of YC. OpenAI knows the value of influencing the sentiment here and then naturally its competition too.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by fitzgera1d »

adamhepner wrote: post #79
fitzgera1d wrote: post #50

Switched to avi.run already. But loved Manus initially.

It looks interesting, but to be honest - when I wanted to connect Google apps I got warned that the developer is not verified. That's a bad look.

Got a notice they're in the Google Review process and getting a CASA. Takes forever because you have to hire a third party firm for several thousand...

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by kristianc »

nsonha wrote: post #85
kristianc wrote: post #6

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Almost certainly Chinese national-security and technology-transfer restrictions around strategic AI tech. China’s NDRC formally prohibited the acquisition and ordered the transaction unwound.

What is "strategic AI" in Manus? Not like they make models.

Sure, but I'm sure China isn't keen for people to get the idea that there's a playbook for every ambitious Chinese founder on how to move Chinese-developed IP and talent outside Beijing’s control.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by FooBarWidget »

brazukadev wrote: post #91
FooBarWidget wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very weird for this to be downvoted. It's a legitimate concern. It's also a legitimate question: where do you get your trust from? Do you have guardrails? Or is it really just blind trust?

> Very weird for this to be downvoted. sama was the CEO of YC. OpenAI knows the value of influencing the sentiment here and then naturally its competition too.

Which is weird since this is not a criticism on AI. I really want to know how I can use things like Claude Work without the risk of it going rogue! Giving it access to lots of systems is potentially very valuable, but also so dangerous that I dare not to.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by jatins »

jrflowers wrote: post #49
jatins wrote: post #30

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I found there Deep Research quite good in terms of browsing the web, better than Gemini's. Though it blew through ~40$ in one task so it was very expensive, probably running at insane margins.

What was the task that cost $40?

Go through job boards and careers pages of various companies and make a job search tracker for personal use.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by ghshephard »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #36
ghshephard wrote: post #28

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Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

How do you have any kind of trust in these tools? They always feel like one prompt injection away, or one over eager agent away ("I'll lookup a forgotten credential in an email to ssh into a server to hack a system in order to fulfill your request"), from disaster. I don't trust any AI session unless I carefully select the exact files they have access to. No way do I dare sharing my entire mailbox.

Our InfoSec teams are insanely restrictive. No Claude Code out of Sandboxes, MCP servers hyper locked down, etc.... I think your reservations are really good - but - at the end of the day - I need to do work - and CoWork does it for me.

It doesn't just have access to my entire machine - it has access to all of our Corporations Google Docs, Google Sheets, Jira Tickets, Confluence, Slack - everything (Except, weirdly - our GitRepos - they aren't confident enough there to let CoWork talk to them)

Weirdly - my work email is mostly irrelevant - nothing in their other than some sporadic company announcements - I'll go a week without looking at it - so it's the least concern. (Very different from personal gmail which, omg - if anyone got into - game over)

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by ghshephard »

Dayshine wrote: post #35
ghshephard wrote: post #28

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Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

How much does it cost? ChatGPT costs ~$2 per message; if Anthropic have a similar pricing model don't you find lots of small changes and up fast?

Everyone gets $125 / month budget (compared to the $5k/month people get for coding LLMS) - it's pretty rare for anyone to get even close - maybe some of the administrative assistant who do nothing but type into CoWork all day go over - I think I use about $30-$50/month.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Post by riddlemethat »

uniqueh4acker9 wrote: post #86
riddlemethat wrote: post #52

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Agreed. I split my work between Anthropic and OpenAI models but CoWork is deeply integrated into my workflows in compliance and project management. I can do more in a day with these tools than I did in a week before them and I have 20+ years of experience leading teams and building companies (even opened the NASDAQ once). It’s impossible to not be using these tools and still win in today’s world.

Out of curiosity - are you getting more work done in the same amount of time= Do you work less hours, equal or more? Do you felt or feel any exhaustion?

I get more work done but I feel exhausted.
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