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DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by platinumrad »

svachalek wrote: post #91
goldenarm wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geometric mean of all these benchmarks : * GPT-5.6 Sol: 65.5 * Fable 5 (w/ fallback): 64.5 * Opus 5: 64.0 * DS-V4-Pro 0813: 62.5 * Kimi-K3: 62.3 * DS-V4-Flash 0731: 55.8 * GLM-5.2: 47.3

Maybe it's me but I don't see how DS Flash is better than GLM at all, much less by a huge gap. I'd probably protest less against Fable and Opus being put at the same level than many would, but there's no denying the two models are a very different experience from each other. I guess where I'm going is no one should pick a model by the benchmarks.

I think instruction following carries outsized weight in these evaluations.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by numpad0 »

LeonKnst wrote: post #6

I find it interesting how much adoption seems to be influenced by momentum. Some of these Chinese models are surprisingly capable, but developers often default to the models that are already established as the “industry standard

There's just no place for models that are neither SoTA nor truly crazy cheap in today's public mental health climate.

If it's 500x cheaper than US models for similar ballpark performance just because it's hosted in China, sure whatever. If it's name brand like Anthropic/OpenAI/Google, that's kinda fine too.

If it's neither, like merely 50% cheaper than latest OpenAI whatever, however massive loss that pricing may be incurring to its provider, it wpuld be considered not worth any attention.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by literallyroy »

igravious wrote: post #34
Gecko4072 wrote: post #10

Currently burning money quickly on official deepseek api. They are also increasing pricing starting today. V4 Flash 0731 still feels like the most outstanding model of the past few months and probably to come.

yup :) i'm doing opencode openrouter official deepseek api (i don't get the opencode hate, i like it) how are you doing it? am also using Kimi K3 via kimi-code and also GLM 5.2 via ZCode happy with all three, they're trailing frontier but i figure if i'm running GNU/Linux then i ought to favour open weights models with my €s -- reduced my usage of claude/gpt to the ~$20 tier just to keep abreast of claude_code/codex…

> i don't get the opencode hate, i like it

When the company I work for was evaluating it, there were multiple rough points. Their terms and conditions allowed training on prompts, the default behavior was to route prompts to their servers for conversation summary/labeling. One of their lead maintainers is also super toxic on many issues.

Sorry this is all baseless with no links, I’m on my phone and locating those issues again isn’t something I have time for.

It’s a good tool I just don’t like the privacy policies nor maintainers attitudes.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by aliasxneo »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #107
nozzlegear wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This but unironically

[flagged]

There are still sane people here, we just don't talk about "rocket man" because it enrages the particular subgroup on display here and usually goes no where actually productive (and has like a 50% of getting flagged to death anyways). I'm not pro Elon by any means, but the standard HN profile of him is pretty bat shit crazy.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by seunosewa »

jklmnopqrstuvw wrote: post #95
epolanski wrote: post #90

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+1, a single test means little.

I don't think so. I specifically kept this PR to test model capabilities, and I've already tested a bunch of models. Current test results show that the more advanced the model is, the easier it passes. For example, GPT-5.5 Medium fails the test(has bug), but High passed.

Do it a second time at least.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by Zetaphor »

jklmnopqrstuvw wrote: post #65

Tested both DS v4 pro 0813 and Grok 4.6 (all from openrouter) on Codex cli. Worked on a same new feature development on my project. Deepseek 4 pro: Worked for 12m 02s - cost $0.12 - has bug. Grok 4.6: Worked for 3m 18s - cost $ 1.41 - no bug.

It's the third link on the front page right now?

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by xnyan »

alecsm wrote: post #50

I've been using the last Deepseek Flash update for a week and I'm amazed. It was a capable model for easy tasks but now it looks like it can do some heavy development for peanuts. I can't wait to try this new one.

I find DeepSeek flash incredible for the price and good in general if it has good plans. I will typically plan using Opus or GLM, then implement with DSF

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by shimman »

freakynit wrote: post #108

Just tested through openrouter.. gave exactly same task.. the task was to scan existing repo, and generate a single docker-compose file to deploy behind a caddy server, where certain port ranges are already used, the service demands widlcard certificates to be provisioned from outside, and postgre needs to be built-in one... Tested this model, and gpt-5.6-terra-high. Results: this one had few issues. terra: none. The…

I've always wondered if I was using containers wrong because none of them I've ever had to create were complicated. Maybe it's because I choose tools that make local development easy (Go + sqlite + various CLTs) or maybe it's because I never hard to interact with this on the professional side outside of making images for our projects (which still weren't complicated for the reasons above).

LLMs make containers in a pretty workable format for me (still hand tweak the env variables for a sanity check).

How exactly does it struggle here and why does postgres need to be built? Were the needs beyond what you get in a base image?

Re: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813

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Post by GrinningFool »

nchmy wrote: post #33
Gecko4072 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/ edit: there are banner announcements saying v4 flash pricing will increase first then overall by an undetermined amount

i dont see any price increase there... what am i missing?

The banner on account settings; and a blurb on the pricing page: "We plan to raise the overall pricing for DeepSeek API services in the near future, with a significant increase expected. Please plan your usage accordingly. The specific pricing plan will be subject to official notice."
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