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Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Once LLMs get fast enough at processing real-time images Apple (or anybody really) can just roll out a browser rendering engine that just masks all ads. It will take a few years but the browser ad-business is in it's terminal phase.

Given that Safari doesn't even have a built-in ad-blocker, I doubt Apple will be leading the charge on this. Such a move would also presumably be incompatible with Apple's highly lucrative search engine deal with Google.

It's amazing how people think Apple has a clean reputation because they've added a thin layer of indirection to their participation in the surveillance ecosystem.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Oh! The Irony! This page doesn't load when your ad blocker is turned on.

Apropos of nothing, I noted @markoff said they liked John Markoff in the 80s. As a complete aside, may I recommend to readers Markoff's book "What the Dormouse Said." From 2005, it's a deep-dive into the relationship between 60s counter-culture and 70s / 80s era microcomputer movers and shakers. Want to read about Doug Engelbart tripping balls in the Santa Cruz Mountains? It's in there. Or maybe I just made that up in a LSD fueled trip to the center of my mind. But that KIND of thing is in there. Abbie Hoffman somehow influenced Steve Jobs fascination with PARC derived WIMP systems. An image of Richard Nixon getting his face punched was burned into the original PC BIOS ROMs. Tim O'Leary developed software in the 80s. One of these is not true, but you have to read the book to find out which.

https://search.worldcat.org/title/57068812

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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I don't understand why websites don't just take ownership of ads. Then it will be impossible to block them.

Most sites are not in business of running ad marketplace. They are in content production and SEO(as in pulling views). I don't think at scale they could operate it would be worth to be ad marketplace. Or would they get the customers(advertisers).

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Once LLMs get fast enough at processing real-time images Apple (or anybody really) can just roll out a browser rendering engine that just masks all ads. It will take a few years but the browser ad-business is in it's terminal phase.

Safari was the first to cripple adblockers and went further than ManifestV3, but it seems their reputation will never catch up to that.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Because the ad ecosystem has two sides. I used to think my ISP could just magically support IPv6 and didn't need routing protocols or peering agreements, too. (They support it now) Websites with ads need to satisfy the ad buyers. This means running a bunch of JavaScript that's adversarial to the website and fingerprints both the website and the browser to determine where and to whom the ad is actually shown. It's lik…

It's ironic how trust would solve the issue and ads would become impossible to remove. Trust comes at a huge premium of course.

Really shows how shady the whole industry is, even to itself.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the ad ecosystem has two sides. I used to think my ISP could just magically support IPv6 and didn't need routing protocols or peering agreements, too. (They support it now) Websites with ads need to satisfy the ad buyers. This means running a bunch of JavaScript that's adversarial to the website and fingerprints both the website and the browser to determine where and to whom the ad is actually shown. It's lik…

It's ironic how trust would solve the issue and ads would become impossible to remove. Trust comes at a huge premium of course.

uBlock can filter arbitrary elements from a website, no chance that every company spends as much as facebook on making writing rules hard

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Once LLMs get fast enough at processing real-time images Apple (or anybody really) can just roll out a browser rendering engine that just masks all ads. It will take a few years but the browser ad-business is in it's terminal phase.

The race of ending personal computing is there. I am sure big players want to control entire stack and users just sitting in front of dumb monitors consuming their ads.
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