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Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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In what bubble ChatGPT Work and Claude Cowork are established? I don't know anyone using it regularly and I'm in a bubble of people using lots of AI tools.

Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

nice advertisement Claude..

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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I expect this decupling will affect certain users. Can certain users speak up about this? I'm certain that certain users use Manus and are users on this certain site.

Likely a bad translation from the original Chinese version? That being said it’s the first time I see Manus, they seem to have the perfect AI startup tagline for a new season of HBO’s Silicon Valley: “Our Mission - To extend human reach by giving everyone the code to leverage their life. Our Product - We build general AI agents as the Action Engine for life.”

> Likely a bad translation from the original Chinese version?

No, most likely they're referring to users who created accounts etc on the meta infrastructure which is being spun down and erased and accounts created prior were never in their purview.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

How do you have any kind of trust in these tools? They always feel like one prompt injection away, or one over eager agent away ("I'll lookup a forgotten credential in an email to ssh into a server to hack a system in order to fulfill your request"), from disaster. I don't trust any AI session unless I carefully select the exact files they have access to. No way do I dare sharing my entire mailbox.

Very weird for this to be downvoted. It's a legitimate concern. It's also a legitimate question: where do you get your trust from? Do you have guardrails? Or is it really just blind trust?

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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As a counterpoint, the Accounting and Finance departments where I work are banned from using Cowork because it performed abysmally during a trial run. To put things in perspective, humans with a 25% lower error rate than Cowork are pip'd and usually let go. As with junior programmers and their love of vibe coding, I've found that anyone who thinks that AI tooling right now is "amazing" lacks the skills, knowledge, an…

Your anecdote is not powerful enough to justify insulting groups of people like you just did.

who took insults from his reply?

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Anyone have info on whose regulatory restrictions they are referring to?

Almost certainly Chinese national-security and technology-transfer restrictions around strategic AI tech. China’s NDRC formally prohibited the acquisition and ordered the transaction unwound.

What is "strategic AI" in Manus? Not like they make models.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

Agreed. I split my work between Anthropic and OpenAI models but CoWork is deeply integrated into my workflows in compliance and project management. I can do more in a day with these tools than I did in a week before them and I have 20+ years of experience leading teams and building companies (even opened the NASDAQ once). It’s impossible to not be using these tools and still win in today’s world.

Out of curiosity - are you getting more work done in the same amount of time= Do you work less hours, equal or more? Do you felt or feel any exhaustion?

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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> ChatGPT costs ~$2 per message For what kind of message are you seeing that kind of charge?

All, enterprice chatgpt has flat pricing. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11481834-chatgpt-rate-ca...

This shows 10 credits per 5.6 Sol chat message, but the price for 100 credits I see on my (consumer) account is just $4. Are business credits vastly more expensive?

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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I don’t actually care about this flash-in-the-pan company, but the name Manus is the reason startups should have a branding designer or branding agency do branding work before they’re too recognizable to change without throwing people off, but not large enough for anyone to learn about it organically (e.g. Meta, X). I can’t help but read it like ‘anus’ with an M in front of it. People on the technical side of the bus…

> I can’t help but read it like ‘anus’ with an M in front of it. Duck Duck Go is really what's wrong with modern dating culture.

If Manus was as common a word as Duck, it would read pretty differently.

Re: Manus will return to operating as an independent company

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In what bubble ChatGPT Work and Claude Cowork are established? I don't know anyone using it regularly and I'm in a bubble of people using lots of AI tools.

Claude CoWork absolutely dominates - I use it continuously now when connecting to mail, calendar, jira, google docs - any type of knowledge work. Almost everyone I know (at work) who does "Knowledge work" type stuff (as opposed to coding) uses it as their primary pane-of-glass now. I have 15+ years of top 1 percentile knowledge using awk to process complex unstructured documents - and I don't even bother anymore - ju…

soon to be "had 15 years of top 1% knowledge"
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