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Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by shostack »

mwambua wrote: post #25
Neywiny wrote: post #3

No mention of what games they're playing? Also no mention of when the NYC ones were told to move to Pennsylvania or be fired? Interestingly also cbs's article https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-philadelphia-a...

Not sure - but I know there's a really serious community of folks who do ATC virtually on VATSIM: https://vatsim.net I feel like those folks would already have been candidates for air traffic controller jobs though.

Having flown in VATSIM towered air space and airports it is some of the best VR flight sim time I ever had.

Had someone on ground and tower at KPAO and several of us pilots were just flying the pattern and it was a blast. Not to mention one was a licensed pilot based out of there who gave me IRL tips for my lesson that week about the field which were really helpful.

Such a remarkable community.

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by kj4211cash »

pclowes wrote: post #46

From a very naïve perspective, why isn’t air traffic control a solved problem? Would love to be educated here, but it seems like there are just not that many moving pieces per airport ( This all seems like queuing theory and collision avoidance, which are very well done by computers.

Worked in this area for a couple of years. We have automated collision avoidance systems and have for years. But things can go off nominal fast and you don't want passenger aircraft making drastic maneuvers that fast. Because conditions can change so fast, queueing theory isn't that useful either. It's useful for more strategic as opposed to tactical air traffic control, what we call air traffic flow management. There's been a ton of research in this area for decades, for example at the National Center of Excellence in Aviation Operations Research (NEXTOR) and at NASA's Aviation Systems division. I could say a lot more offline about why, in my humble opinion, progress has been unbelievably slow, but the short answer is that it's government plus modern day academia operating in an environment where funding is low and risk tolerance is lower.

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by [deleted] »

korrectional wrote: post #60
sellmesoap wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if that happened to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Yezhov as well, FPS games represent you as a Superman, there's a big gap between games and reality. That being said I want my air traffic controller to be good at cooking mama.

Idk about Yezhov, in Ukraine all men have to go fight so it's not like he made a naive decision at all, it was not his to make in the first place if that makes sense.

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Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by rawgabbit »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #11
rawgabbit wrote: post #5

Only 10% make it through the first week? At least the weed out process is quick.

Where do you see it taking a week? > Historically, fewer than 10% of applicants met the FAA's requirements to work as an air traffic controller and gain admission to the agency's training program. It sounds like they are weeded out before even being accepted.

It was this quote: ” Aspiring controllers must also pass an exam that the FAA says predicts candidates' "aptitude to be an air traffic controller." Within a week, they are notified if they have passed”

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by ikr678 »

mwambua wrote: post #25
Neywiny wrote: post #3

No mention of what games they're playing? Also no mention of when the NYC ones were told to move to Pennsylvania or be fired? Interestingly also cbs's article https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-philadelphia-a...

Not sure - but I know there's a really serious community of folks who do ATC virtually on VATSIM: https://vatsim.net I feel like those folks would already have been candidates for air traffic controller jobs though.

I suspect popularity of sims like this is because of people who cannot be candidates for ATC roles - either have family or lifestyle restrictions that prevent them relocating or doing shift work, drug dependencies or medical issues, or criminal backgrounds.

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by fragmede »

layman51 wrote: post #15
colordrops wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://futurism.com/sim-racing-virtual-motorsport-beat-form...

That's cool, but sim racing enthusiasts typically have gaming peripherals like steering wheels, pedals, and gear shifters that bring them closer to the experience of a real race car driver. For FPS games, they might be realistic in terms of detail, but how would most video games capture the physical stamina needed to carry around equipment, or maybe even aiming and maintaining the sights, equipment, etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/1ewvpfs/remember_...

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by duttish »

comrade1234 wrote: post #4

I had a coworker from the democratic republic of Congo who insisted that if he was back home he would do ok fighting because he played lots of first-person shooters. I mean he was 100% serious about this. We argued about it. He got a commitment from our employer to pay his undergrad tuition. But he disappeared one day, probably went home to fight and die. I search for him every now and then but I think he's gone. I t…

Hm, on one level I'm confused. War seems to be either very stressful, very boring (hurry up and wait) or shit my pants level of terrifying. Video games are usually designed to be none of those? well except slightly stressful because that can be fun

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by fragmede »

jmholla wrote: post #40
frollogaston wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sudo echo "127.0.0.1 www.reddit.com" >> /etc/hosts

The write by your shell through the redirect won't get those elevated privileges. You need to use something like tee: echo "127.0.0.1 www.reddit.com" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts

the sudo -s above it is implied.

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by Gud »

sellmesoap wrote: post #31
comrade1234 wrote: post #4

I had a coworker from the democratic republic of Congo who insisted that if he was back home he would do ok fighting because he played lots of first-person shooters. I mean he was 100% serious about this. We argued about it. He got a commitment from our employer to pay his undergrad tuition. But he disappeared one day, probably went home to fight and die. I search for him every now and then but I think he's gone. I t…

I wonder if that happened to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Yezhov as well, FPS games represent you as a Superman, there's a big gap between games and reality. That being said I want my air traffic controller to be good at cooking mama.

He went and defended his country against criminals. Why do you portray him as a naive gamer?

Re: US hires over 2k video gamers as air traffic controllers

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Post by retired »

mrheosuper wrote: post #84
skeeter2020 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played A LOT of flight controller on my ipod / ipad back in the day, and habour master too, and you need to start from scratch when you have a collision, just like in real life!

>start from scratch when you have a collision, just like in real life! Sorry to break it for you, but irl you will likely spend a long time in prison first.

Just delete the app before they find out!
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