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Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by ASalazarMX »

d4ng wrote: post #80
avadodin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason NFTs "failed" is that the "assets" were jpegs with infinitesimal intrinsic value(pre–ai slop) and even less market appeal. We have people wasting money on jpegs and people wanting to own things outside of game inventory screens even today. Something akin to NFTs could still become a part of the economy.

Define intrinsic value in a measurable way that does not depend on any specific human’s subjective estimation.

Is it useful? If not, it has no intrinsic value. It might have emotional value, either by being a memento, something of historical significance..., or something to calm the the dreams for quick, easy, and abundant money.

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by bambax »

jordanarseno wrote: post #103
bambax wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True! How did you spot this though? Did you look at every possible position?!?

user mlni is right. I can solve a cube IRL, and these patterns are easily derivable from the solved state with only a few twists. There is an R' button in the upper right that let's the user enter scramble commands, so I manually entered them, and landed on these Permutation IDs.

Excellent! Thanks for the info!

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by xboxnolifes »

BurningFrog wrote: post #92
xboxnolifes wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It felt pretty big to me, considering Rubik's cubes only have 26 pieces, their valid slots are not all the same, and some of their states are mirrored.

It's really 21, since the centers are all one unmovable piece. https://jhodileongseportfolio.weebly.com/center-faces.html

Good catch, forgot about that.

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by dcanelhas »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #95
dcanelhas wrote: post #73

This is a nice visualization. Are there any keyboard keys to just advance one position along the line? I tried the arrow keys but they jumped quite far. I don't know how this was generated (BFS and flattening?) it seems adjacent indices aren't just one move apart ... but they could be! There is a Hamiltonian circuit for Rubik's cube: https://bruce.cubing.net/ham333/rubikhamiltonexplanation.htm... Following the circui…

You can change the jump-amount in the top right. (500 was an odd default).

For me that step-size only works to affect the jumps given by the mouse scroll wheel. The keyboard arrow keys (Left and Down) also seem to do some scrolling after you have selected the number line. However, both arrows produce steps in the decreasing direction.

The difference between two successive steps by pressing a key seems to be 86504006548979

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by c22 »

avadodin wrote: post #70
thih9 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case someone is curious, NFTs were tradeable tokens popular for a short while in the early 2020s. > Initially pitched in 2017 as a new class of investment asset, NFT trading increased from US$82 million in 2020 to US$17 billion in 2021. Its market was occasionally compared to an economic bubble or a Ponzi scheme. In 2022, the NFT market collapsed; a May 2022 estimate was that the number of sales was down over 90%…

The reason NFTs "failed" is that the "assets" were jpegs with infinitesimal intrinsic value(pre–ai slop) and even less market appeal. We have people wasting money on jpegs and people wanting to own things outside of game inventory screens even today. Something akin to NFTs could still become a part of the economy.

It's funny to think that if bitcoin was backed by jpegs it would've failed already.

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by c22 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #6

Reminds me of that time when, as an undergraduate, my "team" entered a Problem Solving Competition and couldn't choose one of the two problems so we did both in parallel. One of us wrote a program in BASIC on a Tandy 1000 that the rest of us estimated would take more than a google years to finish, but he wasn't be dissuaded and let it run the whole weekend. I made an analysis that was mostly correct but was off by a…

I think the number is spelled googol.

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by jcims »

owlninja wrote: post #101
jcims wrote: post #8

My scroll wheel covers about 12 states per inch of travel. Did the stubby pencil work and it would take about 9.5 years to scroll through them all if the wheel surface was moving at the speed of light.

I clicked the button on my Logitech M720 mouse to free spin, spun the wheel like I was on the Price is Right, and got to 791,001!

Love my Logitech free-wheeling mouse wheels! Not having a heavy wheel and detent-free option is a non-starter for me.

Re: Show HN: Scroll through all 43252003274489856000 Rubik's Cube states

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Post by soupspaces »

owlninja wrote: post #101
jcims wrote: post #8

My scroll wheel covers about 12 states per inch of travel. Did the stubby pencil work and it would take about 9.5 years to scroll through them all if the wheel surface was moving at the speed of light.

I clicked the button on my Logitech M720 mouse to free spin, spun the wheel like I was on the Price is Right, and got to 791,001!

791K? Those are rookie numbers. Get yourself a can of compressed air and you'll be pushing millions.

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Post by anticorporate »

philipallstar wrote: post #108
hahahaa wrote: post #56

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You only need to sell one at $50, then market cap does the rest and you are boundlessly rich.

And then countless politicians will blame you for not paying for everything out of your market cap.

More like countless CEOs will claim that having to pay taxes on that wealth will destroy society, despite no jobs being created to make the product and the product itself have zero value to society.

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Post by gcanyon »

d4ng wrote: post #80
avadodin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason NFTs "failed" is that the "assets" were jpegs with infinitesimal intrinsic value(pre–ai slop) and even less market appeal. We have people wasting money on jpegs and people wanting to own things outside of game inventory screens even today. Something akin to NFTs could still become a part of the economy.

Define intrinsic value in a measurable way that does not depend on any specific human’s subjective estimation.

This was a core point of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Per that book you are asking for the impossible.
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