Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 452 posts

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#181

Post by GrinningFool »

somenameforme wrote: post #152
Aurornis wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strangely, anti-vax sentiment is surging in a lot of countries. Canada has higher rates of vaccine rejection than the United States in some categories, as one example. It’s a strange global phenomenon and I don’t think there is one single root cause. MAGA/MAHA definitely jumped on to the anti-vax train as it became popular, but many forget that Trump presided over the rushing of the COVID vaccine into availability an…

Here [1] is a montage of some of the public messaging around the COVID vaccines. [1] It was quite simply dishonest. That, paired alongside the effort to force people to take the shots, completely destroyed public trust on a level that will take many decades to repair. Generalized vaccine skepticism follows naturally from that. I'm certainly a part of that group. For instance I ended up doing extensive research on e.g…

But this has been building for years ahead of COVID. COVID just gave people something to latch on to. And in spite of COVID vaccine issues, the latest numbers i saw suggest around 80% of people still support standard childhood vaccinations.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#182

Post by diroussel »

kube-system wrote: post #111
MoltenMan wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a trump fan, but the antivax train has nothing to do with him. (Evidence: Canada is doing even worse then us when it comes to measles). If we want to fix this problem (we do), the first step is to recognize the actual problem, not to play the blame game on whichever politician you currently don't like!

He is amplifying the issue, but you're right, Trump is a symptom of the underlying problem. The problem is that internet gave these idiots a platform to mislead people. Back in the early 90s this wasn't much of a problem. Childhood vaccine requirements weren't some hot-button topic then. Most people would just get them when faced with the requirement. Most opposition was isolated to people who were otherwise contrari…

Are you blaming communication technology?

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#183

Post by boplicity »

ghastmaster wrote: post #84

Second paraggraph: > The target of treating 80% of all known cases has already been met, and deaths from the virus have fallen by 36% in the last decade, just short of what is needed by 2030. What is needed by 2030? There is no mention prior to this statement. Later: > NHS England says that since 2015, more than 100,000 people have been diagnosed and treated for hepatitis C, meaning the country is already meeting tha…

Instead of not including the target, AI would have confidently stated some incorrect number.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#184

Post by alistairSH »

nephihaha wrote: post #149
alistairSH wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL, no that's simply not true. The borders between Scotland, England, and Wales are effectively like state borders in the US. Unless you see a street sign, you wouldn't know you crossed it. NI is physically on a different island, so requires a boat or plane ride. And all of the UK (ignoring the territories and ex-colonies) is on islands. And require a valid passport, passing through customs/immigration checks, and e…

Most of the Scottish border is fairly physically obvious, unlike Wales (although the Severn bridge is). Tens of thousands of people live on islands other than Britain and Ireland. Much of Scotland is not even considered UK mainland by delivery firms, even major places such as Perth.

What? Perth isn't considered part of the mainland? How is that possible? My family is from Perthshire (Blairgowrie) and I've visited a bunch. It's definitely part of the island!!!

I can understand Lewis and Harris or the Shetlands (they're separate islands without bridge links), but Perth doesn't make much sense. And I would have assumed Skye was considered "mainland" as well, at least now that there's a bridge.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#185

Post by wbl »

MoltenMan wrote: post #139
geophile wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has a lot to do with him. He doesn't actually have an opinion on any policy issue. For various political reasons, Trump decided to let RFK dictate public health policy according to his extremely delusional ideas. Yes, there was an antivax movement in this country for many years, just as there has been misogyny, racism, and transphobia. Trump has normalized and supercharged all of these moronic and dangerous ideas.…

See my other comments; it is not possible for RFK to have had any effect on this outbreak. If everyone getting measles was 2 or under, it could be possible; they aren't. The reason I bring up Canada is as counterevidence; if it was Trump or RFK'S fault, Canada should be doing just fine. They had twice the cases last year in 1/10 the population. The truth is this is a problem with people believing stupid things, and i…

RFK has been the person behind the antivax movement for a long time.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#187

Post by Aurornis »

nly wrote: post #146
Aurornis wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hep C screening at least once for adults >= 18 is recommended and considered standard of care in the United States. I checked my medical records and I have a negative Hep C result in an old checkup when I was younger, and another one from a new provider who insisted on a big panel of standard testing for new patients (despite me having no risk factors). It’s unfortunate that your early providers dropped the ball. I w…

Crazy how different healthcare is in different countries. In the UK once you've had your childhood vaccinations it's entirely possible you'd simply never see a doctor again in your life until you're ready for your prostate exam in older life. There are no regular checkups or preventative care on the NHS for mid life adults unless you're proactive

> In the UK once you've had your childhood vaccinations it's entirely possible you'd simply never see a doctor again in your life until you're ready for your prostate exam in older life.

It's entirely possible to do this in the US, too, but it's not the default path. I know some people who think it's a point of pride to brag that they haven't been to a doctor in 20 years. I know other people who never miss their annual checkup and are frustrated that their doctors won't order every test they hear about from their podcasts. The US approach to healthcare is varied and confusing to outsiders, even if you remove all of the unreasonably complex insurance stuff from the equation.

> There are no regular checkups or preventative care on the NHS for mid life adults unless you're proactive

If you wanted to request an annual checkup, could you ask for one and get it without problem? Or would they require a specific reason to visit?

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#188

Post by crabette »

noir_lord wrote: post #19
renegade-otter wrote: post #6

Good for you. We get explosive diarrhea as the prize in the States. Wanna trade?

Nah we are good - We have our problems (including our own version of your guy but he hasn't won yet and is currently running against a man with a bin on his head) but on the whole, nah we are good.

I'm quite sure you can cure then with Paracetamol /s

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#189

Post by paulmist »

nly wrote: post #62
thex10 wrote: post #48

I am glad they’re screening for it. I was born to someone who had the virus, but didn’t know I had Hep C myself until I submitted myself to an exceptionally thorough STI testing panel. I say exceptional, because the standard ones I’d done throughout college and early adulthood do not happen to include that particular test. So I feel a bit lucky to have been able to get diagnosed and treated in my mid-20s, before the…

That's odd. I just looked at what I thought was a pretty standard piss and blood STI test results of my own, and it covered: - Syphilis - Hep B - Hep C - HIV 1 and 2 and P24 - Chlamydia - Gonorrhoea

In Europe I don't think it's commonly done. For example, the standard Dutch MSM STI test [1] covers HIV, Syphilis, Chlamydia, and Gonorrhoea only while Trichomoniasis, HPV 2 and Herpes are rather common. That being said, it's freely available at most hospitals.

[1] https://www.mantotman.nl/

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

#190

Post by dessimus »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #60
llm_nerd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

England is a country, and if you're reading this on the BBC they most certainly are using the correct terminology. It is not a sovereign country, but instead is a part of the constituents comprising the UK state.

OK, so now we have the following terms: State, nation, country, sovereign country. For example in Germany one would say there are 16 states, but one wouldn't say that there are 16 countries. Never heard anyone claim that. So state seems to be different from country, at least here. Would people in the UK say that Scotland or Wales are "nations"? Or is at least that term very clearly only for units that could participa…

"State" has lots of meanings depending on context, as it can also refer to the highest level of governments for example: State actors or "head of state". In the U.S., the head of state refers to the President, not to governors in individual states, typically.
Post reply on HN