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England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by mexicocitinluez »

MoltenMan wrote: post #88
geophile wrote: post #83

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I'm not a trump fan, but the antivax train has nothing to do with him. (Evidence: Canada is doing even worse then us when it comes to measles). If we want to fix this problem (we do), the first step is to recognize the actual problem, not to play the blame game on whichever politician you currently don't like!

Right, because tapping one of the world's biggest vaccine truthers to run the Department of HHS and then proceed to link autism with vaccines and change the recommended MMR vaccine scheduling for children has absolutely no impact on anyone.

I can't help but feel this is ragebait or a bot.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by mexicocitinluez »

MoltenMan wrote: post #126
fridder wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are willfully deluding yourself if you believe that. He put an anti-vax idiot as head of HHS. How is that "nothing"?

See my other responses. Do you really think RFK could possibly have had an effect on vaccinations over the last 2 decades in the US OR Canada? Since you seem very emotionally opposed to Trump and his administration: I also don't like Trump or RFK! However, to solve a problem, you have to find the root cause of the problem, and pointing at the most recent politician you hate will never help anyone.

YES.

Do you really think RFK appeared out of the ether? What do you think he's spent the last 2 decades doing?

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by frereubu »

nly wrote: post #146
Aurornis wrote: post #106

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Hep C screening at least once for adults >= 18 is recommended and considered standard of care in the United States. I checked my medical records and I have a negative Hep C result in an old checkup when I was younger, and another one from a new provider who insisted on a big panel of standard testing for new patients (despite me having no risk factors). It’s unfortunate that your early providers dropped the ball. I w…

Crazy how different healthcare is in different countries. In the UK once you've had your childhood vaccinations it's entirely possible you'd simply never see a doctor again in your life until you're ready for your prostate exam in older life. There are no regular checkups or preventative care on the NHS for mid life adults unless you're proactive

I presume you're not a woman, because there's cervical screening for women aged 25-64 every five years. Also depends on what you mean by "mid life", but there's breast screening offered to women aged 50-70 and bowel cancer screening offered to people from 50 to 74 every two years.

There are real trade-offs with screening, and screening too much has harms as well as too little, although I'm not qualified to make a judgement on where that line sits relative to where it is in the UK.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by stickfigure »

MoltenMan wrote: post #148
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While It’s fair to point out that RFK is hopping on a train that’s already got momentum, your first comment reads as if it’s not caused by falling vaccination rates (your second comment clarified further). Also why not blame politicians doing the wrong thing?

Perhaps I should've been clearer. And yes they aren't helping. And yes, we should blame them for the things they do. T But the comment I was responding to was acting as if MAGA was the reason for measles outbreaks, which is false. I'm an incredibly strong believer in the truth. An example of why I think this is an important separation: imagine you tried to fix the measles outbreak and miraculously got every single Am…

A major campaign by RFK's replacement could absolutely make a significant difference stopping the spread of measles. That's the whole point of the (proven extremely effective!) vaccine.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by nkozyra »

MoltenMan wrote: post #115
nemomarx wrote: post #90

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You don't think RFK has anything to do with it?

The reason there are measles cases is because a decent percentage of people aren't getting vaccinated anymore. If all of the cases were 2 year olds or younger (when RFK was put in charge) then possibly. But not only are they older ( https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html ), this is also happening in Canada. I don't see how it could possibly be RFK's fault.

True, but RFK (and other politicians and celebrities) have been active in pushing some form of anti-vax ideology for a decade plus, in some cases back to the 1970s.

It's been a growing movement, not something that kicked off when RFK assumed the HHS role.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by beejiu »

alistairSH wrote: post #67
beejiu wrote: post #11

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Each country also has their own Public Health bodies, so pretty much everything related to health is devolved

Yes, that's what I said - each is named "NHS [country]" (National Health Service [England | Scotland | etc]).

Splitting hairs, but the public health bodies are separate from the National Health Services (so there exists Public Health England _and_ NHS England). Public health is slightly different to healthcare, but of course they work together.

Oddly, Public Health Scotland is part of NHS Scotland; but Public Health England is not part of NHS England, it's a parallel department.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by exe34 »

MoltenMan wrote: post #88
geophile wrote: post #83

[flagged]

I'm not a trump fan, but the antivax train has nothing to do with him. (Evidence: Canada is doing even worse then us when it comes to measles). If we want to fix this problem (we do), the first step is to recognize the actual problem, not to play the blame game on whichever politician you currently don't like!

Putting an anti-vax conspiracy theorist in charge of health is not the way to do it.

Re: England set to be one of the first countries to eliminate hepatitis C

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Post by stickfigure »

kube-system wrote: post #141
fridder wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are willfully deluding yourself if you believe that. He put an anti-vax idiot as head of HHS. How is that "nothing"?

He was appointed and holds those views because these ideas are now popular... not the other way around.

RFK and his anti-vax ideas are popular only within a small fringe of the American population. Enough to drop herd immunity to the point where we now have to worry about measles again, but it's far from the majority.
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