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A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#51

> To save you keystrokes, Vmail provides alternative key mappings for ,* , ,#, and ,! Unfortunately, vmail doesn't seem to consider internationalization important at all. US users save a single press of the shift key when starring messages (,8 instead of ,*), but on a german keyboard, where the star is shift-3 instead of shift-8, the shift-less version of starring trashes the message instead. Not a typo I'm eager to…

So, it doesn't implement VIM's remapping commands?

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#52

I hope you at least felt some pain in your soul when you wrote a vim plugin for email that was gmail only. Why on earth would you do that?

Apparently some people in the world use gmail. He wrote something that will be at least interesting to try, so why should he feel any "pain in his soul"?

go there and make something too, instead of hoping for other people's souls...

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#53

When will we get a "programer's web browser"? I mean a full blown browser of current generation abilities, but with the option of completely keyboard driven interaction. Concise input of small commands (navigation, data extraction, exploring and massaging of extracted data, data uploading etc.) that can be composed to form more complex interactions. It should have full interoperability with the CLI, don't go re-inven…

There's Conkeror, which uses JavaScript: http://conkeror.org/

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's what I was told when I made similar comments about IE only websites years ago as well. How short of a memory does this community have if they don't understand what comes after "embrace" and "extend"?

So the guy who wrote it uses gmail. There's no ulterior motive there. Just a person who uses gmail who wanted to use it in vim

Oh certainly no ulterior motive, but these things never have ulterior motives, just good people not doing what they should. I was just curious why it wouldn't be just as easy to make it use imap rather than being gmail specific. The idea of making an email client that only worked with email addresses from a single domain would not even have occurred to me.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#55

I love it. For decades, my flame war offensives against the evil crusaders of Emacs have stalled out against their Maginot Line of "But Emacs can be your mail client too!" This is like a Blitzkrieg of flame war glory. PARIS PREPARE TO BE MINE!!!

Victory shall not be yours until your precious Vim has both Tetris and Towers of Hanoi. Emacs shall prevail.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#56

> To save you keystrokes, Vmail provides alternative key mappings for ,* , ,#, and ,! Unfortunately, vmail doesn't seem to consider internationalization important at all. US users save a single press of the shift key when starring messages (,8 instead of ,*), but on a german keyboard, where the star is shift-3 instead of shift-8, the shift-less version of starring trashes the message instead. Not a typo I'm eager to…

One, just as another user pointed out, remapping is easy.

Two, I personally think that most international keyboards I have used have been any good at all for the tasks we face as programmers/hackers/developers. They put an emphasis on producing text, not code, and if you spend most of your day typing code and English anyway I can't see why we should "waste" precious keyboard real-estate.

I ditched my Swedish layout during my first year at university, went US-style and remapped the three keys that I needed to type "native" characters to Start-key combos. I haven't looked back since. It was also the point where I started touch-typing.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#57

When will we get a "programer's web browser"? I mean a full blown browser of current generation abilities, but with the option of completely keyboard driven interaction. Concise input of small commands (navigation, data extraction, exploring and massaging of extracted data, data uploading etc.) that can be composed to form more complex interactions. It should have full interoperability with the CLI, don't go re-inven…

There's luakit, uzbl, surf and jumanji from the top of my head, but I don't think any of these have "full interoperability with the CLI". luakit is definitely my favourite as it has been much more reliable than uzbl and easier to configure/extend (in lua).

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the guy who wrote it uses gmail. There's no ulterior motive there. Just a person who uses gmail who wanted to use it in vim

Oh certainly no ulterior motive, but these things never have ulterior motives, just good people not doing what they should. I was just curious why it wouldn't be just as easy to make it use imap rather than being gmail specific. The idea of making an email client that only worked with email addresses from a single domain would not even have occurred to me.

Gmail has several unique features that generic clients don't live up to.
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