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Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you come to this conclusion? If you've found a bug, please file a ticket. Gnome keyring definitely uses encryption to store passwords; they take security pretty seriously: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/SecurityPhilosophy

I think what he meant was seahorse. I just tried it out and I can see my raw passwords by clicking properties and ticking 'Show Password'. Shocked as well, not to mention seahorse is launched without asking my password.

> I can see my raw passwords by clicking properties and ticking 'Show Password'.

As opposed to what? They need to have access to the plaintext passwords somewhere; it's just encrypted when it's stored on disk.

> Shocked as well, not to mention seahorse is launched without asking my password.

The default keychain uses your login password, and it's unlocked at login. This is easy to change if you want to have to unlock it every time you use it.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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I hope you at least felt some pain in your soul when you wrote a vim plugin for email that was gmail only. Why on earth would you do that?

Welcome to Hacker News.

Well, consider GP's assessment as envy of those who use Gmail and therefore can benefit from this nice piece of software.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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Does it have support for two-factor auth? In the event of 2FA/MFA, I'm assuming one needs to generate an application-specific password and keep that in the .rc? Alternatively, I see there are requests for using OAuth, which would be a similar approach to have a "token" that can be revoked.

> In the event of 2FA/MFA, I'm assuming one needs to generate an application-specific password and keep that in the .rc? As far as I am aware, this is currently a limitation of any third-party client that connects to Gmail.

OAuth authentication for IMAP (via SASL): https://developers.google.com/google-apps/gmail/oauth_overvi...

I don't know if there are many clients that support it yet, though.

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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When will we get a "programer's web browser"?

I mean a full blown browser of current generation abilities, but with the option of completely keyboard driven interaction. Concise input of small commands (navigation, data extraction, exploring and massaging of extracted data, data uploading etc.) that can be composed to form more complex interactions.

It should have full interoperability with the CLI, don't go re-inventing grep, sed etc. but instead stand on their shoulders by interoperating fluently with them. In practice i expect this means the "programer's browser" functions as a full blown terminal emulator too.

If it were a text editor (and it should be a competent one of those, but the web is more than a textual medium so some implementations should certainly offer richer functionality than plain text editing) then the net and its many protocols would be its filesystem.

It should be extensible, but only by 1 language. Competing programer's browsers could offer alternative extension languages as their differentiator.

It should be entirely open for extension, by that i mean more than plugins, i should be able to rip out core parts of it to be replaced with alternative implementations (A's needs won't match B's needs and so on).

It shouldn't go too far though, it shouldn't be a full blown operating system: why re-invent the wheel, reuse the thousands of man years effort in existing OS's. It should be multi platform.

We almost have the requisite component parts available now, who's going to get the ball rolling with the new wave of "programer's browsers"?

Re: A vim interface for gmail: Vmail

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> To save you keystrokes, Vmail provides alternative key mappings for ,* , ,#, and ,!

Unfortunately, vmail doesn't seem to consider internationalization important at all. US users save a single press of the shift key when starring messages (,8 instead of ,*), but on a german keyboard, where the star is shift-3 instead of shift-8, the shift-less version of starring trashes the message instead. Not a typo I'm eager to make.

Problems like this are, sadly, way too common.

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