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A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by TZubiri »

comrade1234 wrote: post #7

Something I've wondered... if you publicly say that a domain is for sale and someone has a trademark for it would you automatically lose in arbitration? Around 1998 I registered a domain. Sony registered a trademark with the same name a few years after that. Someone on a Gmail account asked if he could buy it - I later found out he worked for Sony. I told him no - it's for a game I've been working on. I went on a vac…

Not sure about the legal theory behind domains and intent to sell, but fact-wise my defense would be that I consider all of my assets to be for sale, the only difference is the price, so they would have to prove that my 'intent to sell' was significant enough. At the very least price would have needed to be discussed.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by haapier »

slig wrote: post #96
Anoian wrote: post #29

Yeah cause we really had to improve domain squatters lives. In my opinion domain squatting should be banned instead.

Do you have any domains that you purchased with the intention to use and haven't been able to use them yet?

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Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by TZubiri »

madamelic wrote: post #31
layer8 wrote: post #23

It’s interesting that domains apparently are still such a big business, despite how browsers have been deemphasizing URLs and domain names, and given the prevalence of apps.

Domain names are a mess in my opinion. Even though we have over a thousand TLDs only a very small handful are considered for commerce or even thought to be valid. I have a domain name with the TLD of "today". Many people think my email is [email]@[domain].today.com. It's not just the common person's fault but also software engineers / product managers who still have a very restrictive view of what a TLD is (under 3 t…

>I have a domain name with the TLD of "today". Many people think my email is [email]@[domain].today.com

Skill Issue

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by collabs »

ssl-3 wrote: post #103
donatj wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$30k? I was in a similar situation and sold for $2k... I should have held out!

I once got $6k out of a domain that I was using. It was a very good name and I think I had a solid case for keeping it, but I was not prepared to fight for it. Anyway, you got $2k. That's way better than paying for lawyers and losing it anyway, isn't it?

It would be a pretty crappy lawyer if you had the domain since BEFORE they applied for a trademark and you still lost your domain to them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Motors_v._Nissan_Comput...

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by realty_geek »

comrade1234 wrote: post #7

Something I've wondered... if you publicly say that a domain is for sale and someone has a trademark for it would you automatically lose in arbitration? Around 1998 I registered a domain. Sony registered a trademark with the same name a few years after that. Someone on a Gmail account asked if he could buy it - I later found out he worked for Sony. I told him no - it's for a game I've been working on. I went on a vac…

A bit tangential but I imagine some of the smart folks here might have interesting opinions on this. There are a few sites popping up that let you do something interesting with content at a given url by changing the domain name slightly.

The best example is changing the g in github.com to u.

That results in uithub.com making the data there LLM friendly. Is that considered infringement?

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by Nifty3929 »

asdfman123 wrote: post #97

They need Georgism for DNS names. You set your own price for your domain. But you have to pay 2-5% of that price annually to keep it. That way, squatters are incentived to sell it to someone who's going to use it.

Pay 2-5% to who? That's the problem for me - usually this means just another way to expand government. If you would just distribute it equally to all relevant citizens, with none of it going to the government, then I might get on board.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by Marciplan »

kmoser wrote: post #45

> Remove it when the domain is no longer for sale. The convention has no “not for sale” value; absence is the only way to say no. Since most domains that are for sale don't currently have such a record, it would be wrong to assume they are not for sale. Therefore, absence of such a record does not explicitly mean "not for sale." It's no different from a house: a "for sale" sign in the front yard means it's for sale,…

..so? It’s better than what we have now

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by Beijinger »

user_7832 wrote: post #118
Beijinger wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never be intimidated by a trademark. Especially, if your domain is older than the trademark. Even if it isn't, there are many trademark classes.

> Especially, if your domain is older than the trademark. My understanding is that trademarks are about the term being recognised "in common", while a ® is once you pay money to your govt's department for the fancy paper. Hence, if you registered .com and sold said cool named game, you already have a trademark simply because you're the author. (Of course, money for lawyers and proving things in court isn't free, but…

You write about creating a precedent by using a trade term in commerce, and in common law this has some meaning, but it is still very different.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by Beijinger »

appplication wrote: post #109
Beijinger wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never be intimidated by a trademark. Especially, if your domain is older than the trademark. Even if it isn't, there are many trademark classes.

Easier said than done, you don’t get lawyers fees back for winning a frivolous lawsuit, but you are required to pay them if you want to win. It’s entirely feasible for a company to force your hand in this way.

Most lawyers

1. First don't really care, since they get the money from their client

2. Think you will give in if they write a threatening letter.

I am not a lawyer but most lawyers have had a bad experience with me. (I have worked in regulatory and have written patents that were granted. So I am not a total NOOB). Many communications ended with "we don't want to pursue this further..."

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by reticulates »

asdfman123 wrote: post #97

They need Georgism for DNS names. You set your own price for your domain. But you have to pay 2-5% of that price annually to keep it. That way, squatters are incentived to sell it to someone who's going to use it.

You’ve just described registry premium domains. The .com registry operator is bound by a bunch of pricing restrictions but that’s not true for most other registry operators. And so, registry premium pricing was invented to defeat domain investors by making desirable domains more expensive. Want to register chat.now? That’s $5,000/year. Ai.now is $20k/year.
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