Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, but Fastmail is an Australian company based in Melbourne.
But whose cloud infrastructure do they use? (I don't know, but it might likely be AWS, GCP, or Azure.)
None. It's racked and stacked old school
Fastmail offers EU data region
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Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#72Posted on the previous submission for this: it’s a good start, but from the article: If what you need is a guarantee that your data remains only in the EU, we don’t have that, and we’d rather tell you directly than let you assume otherwise.
One needs multiple data centers in europe for backup and DR, sounds like they have one
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s true and Fastmail runs on AWS. But it’s a start and a “feature” many have requested for years. It’s funny because the HQ and I believe their workforce is located in Australia.
Fastmail has never used AWS, and this article is pretty clear about how they have always used their own hardware and traditional colocation. Fastmail used to be based in Melbourne only, but after the Pobox merger it ended up with an office in Philadelphia too. No idea how the balance of things is between the offices now.
That’s interesting, I thought they were hosted on AWS. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#74To me, jurisdiction matters more than physical location. I'd rather be with a EU-operated service that stores data on a non-EU server, than a non-EU operator with a German/french datacenter.
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#75EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…
Does this still apply if there are separate legal entities for US & EU operations? Take Hetzner as an example. They have a separate US company to deal with their US data center. Would their EU servers be vulnerable to the CLOUD Act?
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#76Finally! I have been asking for this since the US started to lose its mind. Great they are listening.
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#77EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…
> your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happened as a german i feel the urge to point out that this technically also applies to european companies... With more hurdles for the US, but still technically applicable
Especially if European companies have an office and significant share of customers in the US.
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#78EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…
That’s true and Fastmail runs on AWS. But it’s a start and a “feature” many have requested for years. It’s funny because the HQ and I believe their workforce is located in Australia.
But how is it actually "a start" or improves anything at all? It doesnt matter where the "physical location" of the data is. It matters who has access to it.
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#79EU data regions are based on the insanely flawed idea that data is: * a physical thing that can only live in one place * not copyable * can be 'contained'. The whole thing reeks of bureaucratic 'best practices' that just aren't. Even worse than that, trying to keep email restricted to the EU (or anywhere else) means that you effectively wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone in a different region, which is kinda…
This is not an EU law anyways, this is snakeoil companies acting like having their data located in the EU will change who has access to it and will make it "GDPR compliant" (it wont since the CLOUD ACT still applies)
Re: Fastmail offers EU data region
#80EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…
Fastmail is an Australian company
And hosted on US infrastructure, satisfying the "or" clause in their post