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Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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OP works at a robotics company, hence the inability to use Google search and "git clone" to find dozens of ready made apps, some of them years old.

For most people talking to Claude is a much better experience than doing a Google search.

LLMs are a much better experience than what web search has become nowadays. And they probably are a better experience than what standard search could ever be.

But yeah, that doesn't mean they are doing much more than search.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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Yesterday my 8yo prompted (using voice recognition) Claude to make a game where it would play her a song (say Twinkle) and she had to play it back and get scored. The UI was a nice piano with visual feedback. The laptop key served as the keys until I prompted for midi support so she could use the electric piano. The whole thing took about 15 minutes. Meanwhile, one peak at the code and you can already see the state s…

> A lot of code is being written and a lot of it is going to be a real future burden. This assumes that the models of the future won't find it easier to just throw the code away and rebuild it This also assumes that the same application build by humans wouldn't become a "spaghetti mess".

>just throw the code away and rebuild it

What about all the undocumented "adjustments" ("bug fixes" in a professional context) that were made to make it actually useful?

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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> A lot of code is being written and a lot of it is going to be a real future burden. This assumes that the models of the future won't find it easier to just throw the code away and rebuild it This also assumes that the same application build by humans wouldn't become a "spaghetti mess".

>just throw the code away and rebuild it What about all the undocumented "adjustments" ("bug fixes" in a professional context) that were made to make it actually useful?

Well first it could write a spec, THEN throw it away :) Like you are supposed to do with a prototype.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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> And the models of the future will surely be better than they are today. This stuff is still a very long way from maturity. Since this is Claude, the models of the future might be more expensive, or more locked down, or might decide your 8yo is actually trying to build a cleverly disguised bomb so her request gets silently downgraded to a dumber model, etc.

People tend to not realize how far these models have become. I remember when they would always hallucinate APIs that wasn't there or make up fields that didn't exist.. those problems are virtually solved now. So with that in mind, why wouldn't AI be able to write better code? The code would have to be maintainable by AI itself (operating based on the assumption that the future will be Agentic Engineering)

> So with that in mind, why wouldn't AI be able to write better code?

> Since this is Claude, the models of the future might be more expensive, or more locked down, or might decide your 8yo is actually trying to build a cleverly disguised bomb so her request gets silently downgraded to a dumber model, etc.

I have no idea what you're trying to add.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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That's because people like me were doing that and writing about it 20+ years ago. Everything from Claude comes from human minds.

Yes, technology at step N is built from technology at step N-1. Always has been.

You're replying with a trite cliché to a comment saying that this particular technology was step N-(20+) being built at step N.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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Yesterday my 8yo prompted (using voice recognition) Claude to make a game where it would play her a song (say Twinkle) and she had to play it back and get scored. The UI was a nice piano with visual feedback. The laptop key served as the keys until I prompted for midi support so she could use the electric piano. The whole thing took about 15 minutes. Meanwhile, one peak at the code and you can already see the state s…

In what world would this be a future burden? It's just a throwaway fun project lol

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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And Claude is even younger.

Guess you depend on how you measure. As "released product to the public" then probably yes. Cumulative training hours spent actually creating and adjusting the weights during training? Probably no.

Maybe, I do not know how the number of neurons in a child's brain and the connections compare to Claude and its training but I would think it is comparable. Also, while a child might sleep the brain does not just switch off, there is still stuff going on that adds to the child's development.

I am, here, not counting time for separate instances of Claude (so 10 instances running for a year is not 10 years). So, I think the 8yo is still older.

Full disclosure, I am not a neurologist or computer scientist (although I find both interesting). I would consider fair criticism of this fair and would even like to see what those in those fields would have to say.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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OP works at a robotics company, hence the inability to use Google search and "git clone" to find dozens of ready made apps, some of them years old.

For most people talking to Claude is a much better experience than doing a Google search.

Google search as become nothing more than a shitty AI by design. Alternative search engines are the only means to actually navigate.

I can still find core material using an alternative.

Don't worry, Google is now embedding that AI into Android's core. Rinse and repeat, expect the same results.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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Yesterday my 8yo prompted (using voice recognition) Claude to make a game where it would play her a song (say Twinkle) and she had to play it back and get scored. The UI was a nice piano with visual feedback. The laptop key served as the keys until I prompted for midi support so she could use the electric piano. The whole thing took about 15 minutes. Meanwhile, one peak at the code and you can already see the state s…

In what world would this be a future burden? It's just a throwaway fun project lol

I think the fear is that a lot of this stuff will end up being load bearing. A lot more folks now know enough to be dangerous but not enough to know what to throw away.

Re: Lost my phone at the office. Claude suggested tracking Bluetooth signal strength

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OP works at a robotics company, hence the inability to use Google search and "git clone" to find dozens of ready made apps, some of them years old.

For most people talking to Claude is a much better experience than doing a Google search.

Google already has AI overviews which I use instead of polluting my ChatGPT, Claude, or Gemini chats.
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