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A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by iwontberude »

detourdog wrote: post #60
pixl97 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be a big company. Look for interesting sounding domain names that are owned but not being used by individuals. Create a product with the same name. Sue the person with the domain name and take it from them. Win, because you're big.

Fortunately my DNS entry starts in 1996 and would be covered by the first clause. BigCos claims would need to predate 1996 for my domain to be seized.

Yeah but you still have to hire attorneys so for some people they will just settle and take any offer

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by layer8 »

madamelic wrote: post #50
layer8 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Habituation is difficult to overcome. If domain names had been freeform from the start, we wouldn’t have this particular issue. Domain names are still a finite space, given that a full domain name can be at most 253 characters, and each domain label at most 63 characters. “Requiring” a .com/.org/.net/.CC at the end isn’t really that much of a restriction. By the way, madamelic.com appears to be available.

That's a fair point. I knew I was going to popped for the comment about it being an infinite space, haha, because it definitely isn't but domain names don't necessarily have the physical constraints land does. There's no such thing, necessarily, as a domain name that is "in the boonies" or no way to create more domain space. > By the way, madamelic.com appears to be available. Hmmm! I may have to grab this one. The o…

My family name was already taken as a domain 25 years ago, but well, you can’t expect to be able to own any but the most rare names. However, the space is large enough that you can invent a name that is available, and it’s fine.

I’m more annoyed by products/companies choosing names that are just common words.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by [deleted] »

ohashi wrote: post #34
comrade1234 wrote: post #7

Something I've wondered... if you publicly say that a domain is for sale and someone has a trademark for it would you automatically lose in arbitration? Around 1998 I registered a domain. Sony registered a trademark with the same name a few years after that. Someone on a Gmail account asked if he could buy it - I later found out he worked for Sony. I told him no - it's for a game I've been working on. I went on a vac…

full disclaimer, I have worked on https://udrp.tools for something like a decade now as the developer. We're working on an AI chatbot to help answer these types of questions based on our dataset and other data sources (actual wipo guidelines, udrpperspectives.org). The short answer is no, the answer our AI gave with citations/explanation is below if youre curious: Does publicly listing a domain for sale mean you'd au…

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Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by rufasterisco »

madamelic wrote: post #31
layer8 wrote: post #23

It’s interesting that domains apparently are still such a big business, despite how browsers have been deemphasizing URLs and domain names, and given the prevalence of apps.

Domain names are a mess in my opinion. Even though we have over a thousand TLDs only a very small handful are considered for commerce or even thought to be valid. I have a domain name with the TLD of "today". Many people think my email is [email]@[domain].today.com. It's not just the common person's fault but also software engineers / product managers who still have a very restrictive view of what a TLD is (under 3 t…

i also have a solution

1. People who can't understand how tld works, learn it. Changing the world to accomodate ignorance is not my preferred direction.

2. We don't link the concept of domain names to economically viable for an US citizen, since that is not a fair for probably a few billion other people.

I think this solves none of the current problems with domain names, but at least it does not add any new ones.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by reaperducer »

zinekeller wrote: post #13
Tiberium wrote: post #4

(Not quoting the article directly due to HN's auto AI filters) In "Common mistakes" this article first says not to add this record if you're not actually planning to sell the domain, then says that the record doesn't oblige anyone to do anything, that feels quite weird to me.

This probably means that meeting the minimum price does not guarantee that you would be able to buy it due to other (probably opaque) criteria. For example, the seller might not want to sell to you/your company in particular, but is open to other people/companies.

Sounds good to me.

I have a particularly valuable domain name that would be perfect for a museum that later opened with the same name.

I'd love to sell or even give it to the museum, but all my offers have been ignored. I don't blame them, since everything on the Internet is a scam these days.

But I won't just put it for sale to the highest bidder. Then it'll end up with a squatter. I'd rather sit on it.

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by delfinom »

pixl97 wrote: post #56
detourdog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been my understanding. I was told by lawyer in in th 90's that it would be described as squatting in court.

Be a big company. Look for interesting sounding domain names that are owned but not being used by individuals. Create a product with the same name. Sue the person with the domain name and take it from them. Win, because you're big.

https://nissan.com/

Archive.org it to see little man beating big corporation

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by gronodev »

germinalphrase wrote: post #54
gronodev wrote: post #41

Sigh, I'm not a fan of domains becoming the new kind of real estate. Wonder how hard will it be in 20 years to get a good, unused name in a reasonable price.

Have you tried getting a good, unused name today? Anything remotely close to a dictionary word, if unused, is squatted with a $xx,000 price tag. Do registrars get a cut of these sales prices because it seems ridiculous to allow squatting.

Well, at least there's still some room for that with some of the new TLDs.

But at some point we will also exhaust all nice TLDs too...

It will be even more difficult than it is now

Re: A domain can now say it is for sale, in DNS

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Post by gronodev »

reaperducer wrote: post #66
gronodev wrote: post #41

Sigh, I'm not a fan of domains becoming the new kind of real estate. Wonder how hard will it be in 20 years to get a good, unused name in a reasonable price.

I'm not a fan of domains becoming the new kind of real estate. Welcome to 2003.

hah, fair point..
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