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A Tome of Forbidden Technologies

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Re: A Tome of Forbidden Technologies

#11

I quit reading at homeopathic medicine.

On that note, I recently learned how popular homeopathic medicine is in Germany. That was surprising to me given the stereotypes about German people being so... down to Earth. Can someone explain the apparent contradiction to me?

Re: A Tome of Forbidden Technologies

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post #6

> The mere facts that these days, each new round of gimmickry that gets the prized label “progress” tends to generate more downsides than upsides, and that the shining future paradise has been getting visibly further off for decades, has barely begun to dent that touching and childlike faith. Many of us are alive solely because of technologies developed in the last 20-30 years, and (I at least) find such objectively…

The author is a snake oil pusher so I don't expect anything reasonable or useful.

Re: A Tome of Forbidden Technologies

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post #7

> Record companies accordingly used sampling rates just dense enough to keep most listeners from complaining, and called it good. It was good for their profits, sure, but it made the music sound flat and tinny. Were there CDs with lower sampling rates than the standard 44.1kHz? I could understand complaining about low quality DACs or something, but if 44kHz is not enough for you then you're either a child or a bat.

No. Red book audio spec is 44100hz.

And I'd wager this guy cannot tell the difference between 44.1kHz and native 192kHz in a controlled double blind study.

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The discourse is nuanced, but isn't CD standard sampling rate greater than anything that's obtainable in practice with vynil?

It's well above the rate you need to reproduce everything a human can physically hear; this is one of the big points that shows the author as a moron...

The change from cd to vinyl "sound" was largely about mastering, and cheap digital production technology being not that great. But you can find examples of the same master going to cd or vinyl, and there's no benefit to the vinyl.

And I say this as someone who enjoys the physical medium, huge art covers, and tube amps.

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I hate when people say that vynils are better than CDs. Sure, some people feel this way for the "vintage" sound of vynils. But that's a personal and niche opinion that isn't objective or widely seen as better by listeners.

I was there when the switch happened. I can't express how happy I was to get rid of vynils and cassette tapes and trade the whole thing for CDs.

I'm a "musicphile" and always disliked vynils for the noise, slowly degrading sound, pain the ass handling and care and, yes, audio quality. I always loved CD's pristine quality and everything else really.

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> The audiophiles were right, however.

No, they weren't actually. It's fine to enjoy vinyl. I have some myself, but the audiophiles were no more right about sampling rates than they were about paying for platinum-coated speaker cables.

> For that matter, if any Ford Motor Company executives happen to read this, I have a helpful suggestion for you, too. Cooperate with the mass pruning of regulations, and then get one of your factories turning out brand new copies of the 1966 Mustang fastback.

I'm going to be generous and call this cute, but... no one wants this. And even aside from there not being a massive market for 1966 Mustang fastbacks, tossing out environmental regulations wholesale just so we could build more cars gets us what exactly, as a society?

> Chemical pesticides got marketed using the same high-pressure tactics that made CDs popular

This is just conspiracy brain. Chemical pesticides are cheap, they massively increase yields, and they work.

> I’m going to focus here on one of the many branches of homeopathic medicine, partly because it’s the one I use and partly because it’s been sedulously ignored by the pseudoskeptics who like to assail anything that doesn’t make profits for Big Pharma.

Basically, if you disagree with him about his quack medicine, you're a "pseudo-skeptic" just looking out for Big Pharma's bottom line.

This post has a very simple response: there is no book of "forbidden" technologies. These technologies were abandoned mostly out of experience and demonstrated inferiority to alternatives. The fact that conspiratorial thinking is used to explain their failure suggests that the author is more committed to believing in their superiority than actually gathering evidence and making a rational choice.

Re: A Tome of Forbidden Technologies

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A very worthy premise for an article. Shame the content of it is claiming CDs sound "tinny" because of sample rates, and extolling homeopathy. Also, after praising the revival of vinyl records based on apparently higher audio fidelity compared to CDs, he undoes this point by also praising the comeback of cassette tapes, which, while having a kind of portability and (external) robustness about them, are one of the worst sounding physical media developed.

The biggest common factor for the benefits of old electronic technology now considered obsolete is much lower latency. For nearly every modern digital technology that takes a noticeable amount of time, there's an older version that is less capable but also has a practically instant response to input. Telephony, television, keyboard input lag, sound amplification, the list goes on.

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post #7

> Record companies accordingly used sampling rates just dense enough to keep most listeners from complaining, and called it good. It was good for their profits, sure, but it made the music sound flat and tinny. Were there CDs with lower sampling rates than the standard 44.1kHz? I could understand complaining about low quality DACs or something, but if 44kHz is not enough for you then you're either a child or a bat.

Indeed 44.1 kHz mathematically and perfectly represents sound waves within the human hearing range (by Shannon’s sampling theorem), so you’re limited by the recording and playback devices. The author failed to demonstrate an understanding of how digital sampling works and perpetuates this common misunderstanding despite the wealth of information available in 2026.

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The discourse is nuanced, but isn't CD standard sampling rate greater than anything that's obtainable in practice with vynil?

I feel that another issue the author ignores is that vinyl records degrade and their sound quality suffers. I vaguely remember that a typical vinyl record has about 8 “perfect” performances before its playback qualify steadily declines. This isn’t an issue with digital media.

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post #16

> The audiophiles were right, however. No, they weren't actually. It's fine to enjoy vinyl. I have some myself, but the audiophiles were no more right about sampling rates than they were about paying for platinum-coated speaker cables. > For that matter, if any Ford Motor Company executives happen to read this, I have a helpful suggestion for you, too. Cooperate with the mass pruning of regulations, and then get one…

> Basically, if you disagree with him about his quack medicine, you're a "pseudo-skeptic" just looking out for Big Pharma's bottom line.

The hallmark of the anti-intellectual is to attack your motivation instead of your evidence. This made it really clear to me that this is not a serious writer.

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