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New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

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Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

#32
You know, we don't actually have to do this. The people could block the gates and prevent the delivery of the turbines. The local fire department could fail their inspection and prevent the gas from being turned on. The UPS could "mysteriously" go up in smoke during it's commissioning.

None of this is preordained. We, the phyical persons, can choose how we want to live, and what constraints the corporate persons must accept.

Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

#33
post #11

Ok. A serious question. I frequently hear that wind and solar are the cheapest forms of electricity. Then why are they using gas turbines? Is it because they can generate more power with a smaller real estate footprint?

gas turbines are not intermittent

> I frequently hear that wind and solar are the cheapest forms of electricity

presumably they put zero value on stable production or count subsidies as income

Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

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post #11

Ok. A serious question. I frequently hear that wind and solar are the cheapest forms of electricity. Then why are they using gas turbines? Is it because they can generate more power with a smaller real estate footprint?

Renewables require storage because they are bursty - sun goes down, wind stops blowing. This is more expensive than just burning as much nat gas as you need.

Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

#36
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe is burning, rivers are at all time lows, new temperature records ar being set every year, oceans are rising and you have the gall to demand we ignore the obvious?

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You can find latest ipcc report (short version) here: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6...

Please share your sources saying it's not getting worse.

Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

#37
post #3

It is insane how we're accelerating the climate catastrophe in an ideology-driven race to be king of the ashes. Capitalism is a death cult, AI capitalism doubly so.

Communism dried up the third largest lake in the world just for irrigation (while starving tens of millions in the meantime).

The irrigation plan was in response to the famine, and it worked, it was the last famine in the soviet union.

Re: New Amazon Data Center Is Set to Have the Most Polluting Power Plant in the U.S.

#40
post #3

It is insane how we're accelerating the climate catastrophe in an ideology-driven race to be king of the ashes. Capitalism is a death cult, AI capitalism doubly so.

Communism dried up the third largest lake in the world just for irrigation (while starving tens of millions in the meantime).

No one mentioned communism?
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