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The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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I’m not saying it’s decisively correlated, or anything on its own, but there sure are a lot of anime avatars in this community.

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The Internet was fully functional and full of competent people when it was a much weirder place. Converting all spaces into the equivalent of dress shirts and blazers doesn't reduce anyone's competence but does make the experience so much more drab. Let people like things.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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post #40

I’m not saying it’s decisively correlated, or anything on its own, but there sure are a lot of anime avatars in this community.

Nix and NixOS probably wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the anime pfps :)

I do not like anime but holy crap do people with anime pfps make excellent software engineers and terrifying red teamers.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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post #33

Can someone explain the ramifications of this to those of us not informed. I’m in the process of about to deploy Nixos to server workloads, but am now hesitant because I don’t understand these ramifications.

the thing being disbanded is less than a year old

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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post #40

I’m not saying it’s decisively correlated, or anything on its own, but there sure are a lot of anime avatars in this community.

Nix and NixOS probably wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for the anime pfps :)

It’s really the furries that keep the modern world running.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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post #42
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you've been part of an organization or a community that has undergone a big conflict or a schism, you'd understand. Plus this community largely communicates exclusively over text, which doesn't really work well for community repair. It's difficult to get people to feel OK with each other, or spend time together not arguing, when they only ever write intense letters to each other. Plus social work with technical pe…

what was the Nix schism? Did something like systemd happen? or like, Determinate/commercial vs Not? Or more like USA culture wars / code-of-conduct flamers (i vaguely recall some drama around a conference sponsor)? anyways, i hope there’s a path to some kind of redemption and reconciliation in the future for the community. it sounds like it’s been Bad for years at this point.

The creator of Nix soft-forked it and started a company, that sort of inevitably leads to bad vibes I think

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#66

There was a sweet spot in like 2024 when it seemed like everything was possible with Nix, but now it seems like everything “experimental” is permanently so (like flakes), packages I care about are not as fresh as I want, I have no mental recall for Nix commands… Meanwhile, my company is using Nix for everything heavily internally. Everyone gets their dependencies via Nix unless you are like using PAM or something. Re…

I was lead on a Nix adoption effort for a few years that was kind of like that: it solved real problems, unlocked far faster, smaller, and cheaper builds than would have been possible any other way, and let us ship delta updates over crappy wifi connections to Linux computers on robots. Flakes were a perfect fit for our model, and we were just in time for stuff like up to date versions of cuda and tensorflow to be de…

Meanwhile I’m over here with my 100 line flake.nix that installs system dependencies with direnv across hundreds of dev users and dozens of repositories wondering why everyone is all up in arms about boring and stable technology that solves a specific problem

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#67

I’m not saying it’s decisively correlated, or anything on its own, but there sure are a lot of anime avatars in this community.

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Sorry for the snark, but would it kill you to change your definition of appropriate?

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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I’m not saying it’s decisively correlated, or anything on its own, but there sure are a lot of anime avatars in this community.

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Why do you consider it so strongly to be inappropriate? It literally does not tell me anything about the user.

DOS was built in a basement. Pretty sure suit and tie wasn't the dejour whilst they were doing it.

Linux was a hobby project. Pretty sure that slacks featured more than a blazer.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#69

There was a sweet spot in like 2024 when it seemed like everything was possible with Nix, but now it seems like everything “experimental” is permanently so (like flakes), packages I care about are not as fresh as I want, I have no mental recall for Nix commands… Meanwhile, my company is using Nix for everything heavily internally. Everyone gets their dependencies via Nix unless you are like using PAM or something. Re…

> Meanwhile, my company is using Nix for everything heavily internally. Everyone gets their dependencies via Nix unless you are like using PAM or something.

Why doesn't your company fund development of nix and its associated ecosystem?

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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post #41
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you've been part of an organization or a community that has undergone a big conflict or a schism, you'd understand. Plus this community largely communicates exclusively over text, which doesn't really work well for community repair. It's difficult to get people to feel OK with each other, or spend time together not arguing, when they only ever write intense letters to each other. Plus social work with technical pe…

https://jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html Any organization is eventually controlled by people more interested in the organization than its mission. Or something to that effect. (Accidentally attached this to the wrong post, meant for the post above this)

Technical people (or people with bad social skills) also love to inadequately and incorrectly try and turn the complexity of social organization into simple laws and rules. This kind of reduction doesn't really do people a service, and is also a bit arrogant and simple-minded. It would be much more interesting to name this as a tendency, and try to describe when and how it might occur, how the structure of the org might influence it, etc. Decontextualized takes projected onto everything like this are kind of misapplied and meaningless.
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