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The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

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Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#11

Post by anglesideangle »

QwenGlazer9000 wrote: post #10

Honestly after seeing the last election results I knew bad things were coming. The worst of the drama instigators managed to get elected.

The post has nothing to do with the election drama you cite:

> These issues have persisted despite our repeated attempts to discuss them. This is, of course, a systemic problem rather than one any single SC member could solve; we don’t envy the demands of the role, have been impressed by the efforts of several members, and recognize that every individual naturally has limited time and energy and can only do so much in the context of a representative majoritarian committee.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#12

Post by QwenGlazer9000 »

anglesideangle wrote: post #11
QwenGlazer9000 wrote: post #10

Honestly after seeing the last election results I knew bad things were coming. The worst of the drama instigators managed to get elected.

The post has nothing to do with the election drama you cite: > These issues have persisted despite our repeated attempts to discuss them. This is, of course, a systemic problem rather than one any single SC member could solve; we don’t envy the demands of the role, have been impressed by the efforts of several members, and recognize that every individual naturally has limited time and energy and can only do so much i…

I did. And half the post was them talking shit about the SC. Maybe you should read the post?

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#13

Post by ishanz »

anglesideangle wrote: post #11
QwenGlazer9000 wrote: post #10

Honestly after seeing the last election results I knew bad things were coming. The worst of the drama instigators managed to get elected.

The post has nothing to do with the election drama you cite: > These issues have persisted despite our repeated attempts to discuss them. This is, of course, a systemic problem rather than one any single SC member could solve; we don’t envy the demands of the role, have been impressed by the efforts of several members, and recognize that every individual naturally has limited time and energy and can only do so much i…

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Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#18

Post by aliasxneo »

I really don't think these issues are necessarily "systemic" in the sense that they've been ongoing for the last decade. I _was_ a long-time contributor until about two years ago when certain actors came into the community and started making a bunch of unnecessary drama. Since then I've seen some long-time friends in the community either slowly drop out or simply get ran out by a mob with pitch forks.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#19

Post by stingraycharles »

“Our experience is that the Steering Committee as an institution lacks a native instinct for the delegation envisioned by the constitution, while also not being sufficiently engaged and cohesive to handle individual decisions at those levels itself.”

This is an almost poetic description of micromanagement. I really like Nix and have been running it as my main OS for several years in the past ~ 10 years.

I don’t think the issues they have are unsolvable, it just appears that the governance model they’re trying to have is not working out, and it’s very difficult to roll back.

Re: The Nixpkgs core team has disbanded

#20

Post by klodolph »

There was a sweet spot in like 2024 when it seemed like everything was possible with Nix, but now it seems like everything “experimental” is permanently so (like flakes), packages I care about are not as fresh as I want, I have no mental recall for Nix commands…

Meanwhile, my company is using Nix for everything heavily internally. Everyone gets their dependencies via Nix unless you are like using PAM or something.

Reminds me of Bazel, in the way that it gets adopted by companies with developer support teams (because it solves real problems) but feels frustrating for us ordinary folk. Nixpkgs is kind of a critical part of “ordinary folk” and with the core team disbanding, I feel like my personal moves away from Nix (for projects) are proving correct.

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