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Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#291
I always find it confusing that a meaningful volume of the comments are saying "this reached parity with SOTA models. Best $/task."

And a meaningful chunk of the comments are saying "this piece of garbage isn’t even at the level of gpt-oss 20B".

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#292
Seeing everyone spend like 200USD a month seems kind of mad.

I have £20/month Gemini and £20 a month claude for a bunch of personal projects.

Yes I have to wait sometimes, it's probably a good thing.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we put up with Fable's occasional hiccups because there's nothing better at the moment. I use Claude Code semi-heavily for my small business, and the $100/mo I pay for that is a rounding error compared to the value it provides. If I can avoid spending an hour or two "massaging" the output from a lower-end model once, or it avoids introducing one load-bearing (sorry, couldn't resist) bug, then that's the entir…

Except Fable won’t be costing $100 for enterprises that will be considering the Chinese models. If $100 Claud Max subscription works for you, then great. But you have to remember your pricing is subsidized by enterprises that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars each month, if not more, to Anthropic. For those companies, a Chinese model that can cut their AI spend from $1M/month to $200k suddenly seems attractive. An…

Yeah, fair. If we were talking $2,000/mo vs $200 then the maths starts looking very different.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#294
post #292

Seeing everyone spend like 200USD a month seems kind of mad. I have £20/month Gemini and £20 a month claude for a bunch of personal projects. Yes I have to wait sometimes, it's probably a good thing.

Just depends on commitment, time, and scope. Personally I also use the 20$ plans. But people spend 200$ for a gym membership. So shrug.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we put up with Fable's occasional hiccups because there's nothing better at the moment. I use Claude Code semi-heavily for my small business, and the $100/mo I pay for that is a rounding error compared to the value it provides. If I can avoid spending an hour or two "massaging" the output from a lower-end model once, or it avoids introducing one load-bearing (sorry, couldn't resist) bug, then that's the entir…

Except Fable won’t be costing $100 for enterprises that will be considering the Chinese models. If $100 Claud Max subscription works for you, then great. But you have to remember your pricing is subsidized by enterprises that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars each month, if not more, to Anthropic. For those companies, a Chinese model that can cut their AI spend from $1M/month to $200k suddenly seems attractive. An…

> not your $100/month..

This is made brutally obvious by anthropics customer support for people with such accounts.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#296
post #292

Seeing everyone spend like 200USD a month seems kind of mad. I have £20/month Gemini and £20 a month claude for a bunch of personal projects. Yes I have to wait sometimes, it's probably a good thing.

I max out my $200/month Claude plan. You are obviously just not taking advantage of it to the same level as others. Which is fine. Don't pay for something you don't need. But I would definitely take a massive productivity hit if I had 1/20th the usage.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is $5/day irrelevant? In the $150/mo range you can get effectively unlimited usage of GPT 5.6 Sol (Pro plan). Why use a much weaker model for the same price?

5 USD is at the "raw" API price. OpenCode currently offers 60 USD API credits at 10 USD per month (OpenCode Go) and have even doubled it temporarily as a promotion. Effectively you can get Deepseek for 1/12th the already ridiculous cheap API price.

Those are not at the same price. Opecode’s 60 USD of deepseek usage is charged at much higher rates than what deepseek themselves charge at.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#299
post #292

Seeing everyone spend like 200USD a month seems kind of mad. I have £20/month Gemini and £20 a month claude for a bunch of personal projects. Yes I have to wait sometimes, it's probably a good thing.

People use Claude Code for professional reasons. Waiting is not a luxury when there is a deadline.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Others have said similar but I disagree, I'm spending $200/m and I can easily burn through my weekly quota with a few overnight goals using 5.6 medium.

Same here with Claude Opus on 20x Max plan. Easy to burn through with 3-5 parallel sessions, each with their own subs going. Then, once I go over, API pricing racks up FAST!

I burned through $100 of credits in literally 40 minutes doing the same long running task I always do.
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