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U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

Also Nemotron and Arcee.

Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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post #8

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

There's a bunch of American open models. Inkling, Nemotron, Trinity come to mind, but I'm sure there's others.

Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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post #8

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

I would not be shocked if another open model eventually shakes out of Facebook (based on Zuckerberg's public remarks).

Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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I couldn't find any details about size or training data for the model.

It looks like they're taking applications for training data (due August 14th), so I think it's safe to say this is just an announcement of intent and a call for involvement vs. something that is readily available. Seems almost quaint in comparison to the strategy of sucking up every piece of data you can find anywhere on the Internet and feeding it to your LLM but I suspect their intent is to be more careful in what they train their model on.

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It is. Depending on who Trump has fired or put in charge of a department it can be another shell that pumps out low quality crap. It might be the most valuable contribution on this thread.

Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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post #8

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

There's a bunch of American open models. Inkling, Nemotron, Trinity come to mind, but I'm sure there's others.

Just looked into some Nemotron stats

Looks like on https://arena.ai> agent arena (grouped by lab) Nvidia is 15/15 (much worse than Thinky and Mistral) and on text arena it's 18/27

On https://openrouter.ai/models?order=most-popular> I definitely see usage though (probably mostly cause Nemotron 3 Ultra is free) the grouped order is DeepSeek, Tencent, Xiaomi, OpenAI, Z.ai, Nvidia

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post #12
post #8

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

There's a bunch of American open models. Inkling, Nemotron, Trinity come to mind, but I'm sure there's others.

Don't forget IBM

Re: U.S. Department of Energy Launches the Genesis Open Models Initiative

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post #13
post #8

Just realized that there are basically no American open models right now ever since the Llama series was abandoned. Basically Gemma and GPT-OSS I guess? Ah but Mira Murati's new Inkling is Apache 2.0 But it makes sense that if you're a university researcher you are thinking about what's a model that will be open weight and developed over the long term and doesn't raise 'Chyna' concerns in Washington DC

I would not be shocked if another open model eventually shakes out of Facebook (based on Zuckerberg's public remarks).

Which remarks? Could you share a link?
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