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São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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Go plant an oak tree. Not in theory, not a big plan for a monumental effort, just plant an oak tree. They survive for many lives of men and are a cornerstone for feeding the entire ecosystem. If you can't plant one where you're supposed to, plant one where you're not. It takes an afternoon not a lifetime.

Half of my property is woods and there are multiple fallen oaks that are slowly returning to the ground, but the canopy remains exposed. I'm constantly torn between letting "nature take its course" or speeding things up with a chainsaw and carefully sapling. I have also considered walnuts or fruit-bearing trees and slowly converting my land to something more akin to a food forest.

Oaks ARE a food forest for birds and bugs and small mammals and such. They create food chains. Oaks are particularly good at this.

I think the best path is helping nature along to be the best that it can be naturally. There's a bunch of artificial gardening which would never sustain itself that ought to be avoided because it only looks like you're doing something worthwhile.

I'd highly suggest reading up on different keystone species for creating year round food sources for your local ecosystem with native plants and help nature along a little with a light touch.

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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A similar story to Wendy's Secret Garden in Sydney, Australia? https://www.wendyssecretgarden.org.au/ After her husband's death in 1992, Wendy Whiteley took to cleaning up an unused railway easement behind her house. It turned into a substantial garden. The railways refused to guarantee its future (it was on their land), but in 2015 it became an official park. Well worth a visit on a sunny afternoon if you are in Syd…

This is the type of thing that the Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't guy and his friends refer to as "Pre-Legal activities".

I read his book Concrete Botany recently. It also mentions the deep mulch trick mentioned elsewhere in this thread. It's an easy read and a refreshing perspective.

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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It feels great to see this kind of story. We're all suffering from this (false) idea that we can't do anything, things are too bad, somebody else has done it before, or somebody else will do it. The fact is, humanity is pulled forward by people like this, who find their goal and don't let it go. We need this right now, we're stepping into a pretty dark century, we're probably going to lose millions or billions of peo…

Go plant an oak tree. Not in theory, not a big plan for a monumental effort, just plant an oak tree. They survive for many lives of men and are a cornerstone for feeding the entire ecosystem. If you can't plant one where you're supposed to, plant one where you're not. It takes an afternoon not a lifetime.

You do have to protect them from deer for the first few years.

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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> path through a ridge of hills using only a hammer and a chisel I know you put the numbers and everything, but I didn't quite grasp just what a monumentous task this was until I saw the image of the "path through a ridge": https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Link_between_Ghivra_... It is absolutely bananas (and wonderful!) what a single human can achieve with love, passion and determination.

I echo that sentiment but oppose the positive adjectives tied to his motivation. Rather I believe can be at our best when motivated by our dark emotions towards positive actions: Grief, rage, madness. Mr. Manjhi was compelled to this momentous thing after his world was torn apart by it. He persevered while the very people whose lives and whose children's lives he was improving mocked him. He worked for 20 years compe…

It feels like an Orphan-crushing machine[0] kind of story. It's amazing he achieved that but he shouldn't have needed to. Why wasn't there a road already?

[0] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/orphan-crushing-machine

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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I echo that sentiment but oppose the positive adjectives tied to his motivation. Rather I believe can be at our best when motivated by our dark emotions towards positive actions: Grief, rage, madness. Mr. Manjhi was compelled to this momentous thing after his world was torn apart by it. He persevered while the very people whose lives and whose children's lives he was improving mocked him. He worked for 20 years compe…

It feels like an Orphan-crushing machine[0] kind of story. It's amazing he achieved that but he shouldn't have needed to. Why wasn't there a road already? [0] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/orphan-crushing-machine

It doesn't need to be one or the other.

You can be angry that the machine exists - and work to destroy it - but you can also appreciate people doing the work to stop orphans from being crushed. And you don't always have to do both at once.

If you only engage in the former... well, then orphans just keep getting crushed while you try to figure out how to stop it. And keep in mind the machine is much smarter than you, and has been doing this a long time and is really good at it and is always getting better, and is supported by various systems to protect it, and...

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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But you can't just trick yourself into obsessively fanaticising something random just so you won't feel your life is wasted.

This reminded the movie Ikiru (いきる), basically a elder discovered he will die and after some time he finds a purpose to its meaningless life, transform a wasteland into a playground. All these stories have one thing in common: be obsessed with something that will improve other people's life.

yeah but you have to find it. You can't just pick something at random.

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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I volunteer at greencitypartnership.org, leading a crew restoring a large park. I've been wondering how we might build a community of urban forest hackers. To share tips and info, how to deal with vandals, help each other make yard signs, how to transport water over trail, etc. I would love to know better ways for breaking up a parking lot. I opened up 4 separate spaces for tree planters. I started with pickaxe and p…

> And I'm sure someone somewhere has some labor saving hacks for tackling Himalayan blackberry. Goats. It's not labor eliminating, you've got to set up and maintain temporary fencing, and you've got to remove plants that dangerous for goats to eat, and you need to take care of the goats generally. But, they can really help get things under control.

I would love that. We've asked.

Something something budgets, liability, approvals, blah blah blah.

Like everywhere else (in this habitat zone), we have acres of just blackberry. They even choke out the scotts broom and butterfly bushes. There's no way us volunteer crews are going to get ahead of all that.

What I'm doing is creative, strategic, public relations. In our 80 acre park, we choose spots based on impact and visibility. Just like Tom Sawyer painting the white picket fence.

Our first year, I got lots of skepticism, negative comments. A few years later, the park regulars (aka voters) have seen results and progress. It cheers people up. And we're getting all sorts of ad hoc support, donations, etc.

Over time, I have to believe, we'll win over enough support to actually compel the host city to honor their tree conservation and restoration commitments. (They're still losing canopy cover faster than its being replaced.)

Re: São Paulo resident transforms degraded area into urban forest

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Folks might also be interested in San Fransisco's own "Tenderloin National Forest" https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tenderloin-national-fore... Is there some abandoned parking lot in your town? Get some friends together with pick axes for a depaving party. Or, for something a bit less dedicated, craft some seed bombs (mix dirt and clay together into small cookie balls with native seeds in them) and throw them into…

I volunteer at greencitypartnership.org, leading a crew restoring a large park. I've been wondering how we might build a community of urban forest hackers. To share tips and info, how to deal with vandals, help each other make yard signs, how to transport water over trail, etc. I would love to know better ways for breaking up a parking lot. I opened up 4 separate spaces for tree planters. I started with pickaxe and p…

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