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App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by epolanski »

starik36 wrote: post #52
echelon wrote: post #47

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Is Gruber starting to realize Apple's monopoly is bad? App stores should not exist in a world where only two phone operating systems exist. All apps MUST be installable via web. Come on, EU. Help us out here. Free us from distribution tyranny. Do it before Google morphs into the same hell beast. Soon you won't be able to read unapproved, unattested bytes. It's coming. We need as many freedoms as we can get. Apple can…

The other side of your coin is that I need to periodically visit my relatives and remove all sorts of malware and adware from their phones. Just like I've done with PCs over the past few decades.

God forbids your relatives ever touch computers!

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by Arodex »

starik36 wrote: post #52
echelon wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Gruber starting to realize Apple's monopoly is bad? App stores should not exist in a world where only two phone operating systems exist. All apps MUST be installable via web. Come on, EU. Help us out here. Free us from distribution tyranny. Do it before Google morphs into the same hell beast. Soon you won't be able to read unapproved, unattested bytes. It's coming. We need as many freedoms as we can get. Apple can…

The other side of your coin is that I need to periodically visit my relatives and remove all sorts of malware and adware from their phones. Just like I've done with PCs over the past few decades.

Then Apple should do its fucking job correctly. It is not a poor little company, they have no excuse for this rank incompetence. None.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by Jonovono »

Grombobulous wrote: post #72
dgellow wrote: post #54

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The guideline: (b) Don’t submit apps that are indistinguishable from what's already widely available. Opportunistically creating variants of existing app categories or popular apps degrades App Store discovery, reduces overall app quality, and harms both users and developers. Certain kinds of apps, such as dating, flashlight, sound effects, wallpaper, simple timers, and fortune telling, are well established on the Ap…

This is such a dumb policy, and it's absolutely not even being followed. I submitted a timer app this year and it got approved. It's literally just a slightly more feature-rich timer. I made this as a "my first app" type of experience. Never at any point was the quality of my app questioned, and I'm the first person who will tell you that it's not very good.

Don't worry. The next time you spend lots of time developing an app, Apple will be sure to reject it multiple times ;p

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by thewakalix »

smelendez wrote: post #61
rcstank wrote: post #16

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You missed the fact that the article also explained there is no feature like that in the app.

I actually thought the article could be more explicit about that, but in fairness I think the author figured readers were familiar with the app and that it would be obvious there’s no tarot functionality.

What could be more explicit than this?

> It has no tarot function, no horoscopes, and nothing that I, or anyone else I’ve asked, would associate with astrology.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by stuart78 »

I've been waiting for several days on my MacOS app review. After many successful releases, somebody has decided to nitpick the App description. Fixed and resubmitted. Then, another rejection for some other related aspect of the description. Fixed and resubmitted, now waiting on next review.

I'm good to make the description complaint, of course, but it seems the reviewer immediately halts as soon as they encounter any issue. Would have been nice to get both feedback points on the first response, especially given how long it can take to get back to the top of the queue.

At the end of the day, I regret my choice to use the App Store at all.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by iamnothere »

ceejayoz wrote: post #78
iamnothere wrote: post #69

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Correct. As a side benefit we can restrict users from installing applications that go against other societal interests, like apps that allow unrestricted communications. The framework is complete for mobile devices, we just need to tackle PCs now.

Loudly dismissing genuine and legitimate concerns may feel good, but it’s not likely to get you what you want, especially at a societal level. I agree with you on the risks of this sort of protection! But I understand what it’s like for non-technical folks in a technical society. Their needs do matter.

You’re precisely right, and of course there’s no possible way on Earth that we could create a safe way to allow users to install apps outside of the blessed path. No matter how many steps people have to go through, even if they have to pass a special exam to prove their competence, even if they have to sign something that says they could lose their life savings and submit it to a court to document this fact. There’s just not a single possible way to protect people to an adequate degree.

That the gatekeeper and government benefit from this arrangement is just a happy accident.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by ceejayoz »

iamnothere wrote: post #87
ceejayoz wrote: post #78

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Loudly dismissing genuine and legitimate concerns may feel good, but it’s not likely to get you what you want, especially at a societal level. I agree with you on the risks of this sort of protection! But I understand what it’s like for non-technical folks in a technical society. Their needs do matter.

You’re precisely right, and of course there’s no possible way on Earth that we could create a safe way to allow users to install apps outside of the blessed path. No matter how many steps people have to go through, even if they have to pass a special exam to prove their competence, even if they have to sign something that says they could lose their life savings and submit it to a court to document this fact. There’s…

There isn’t a way for everyone to be able to do what they want with computing devices and be safe from this shit.

That’s the reality. As with most things in society, it’s left to people to negotiate the balance.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Post by doublerabbit »

iamnothere wrote: post #77
baby_souffle wrote: post #64

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I get your point but neither the Play store or the Apple app store are devoid of malware.

Obviously the solution is to restrict the stores to a small, government-licensed list of apps that are known to be safe and regulated.

Then you get government censorship. China for example.
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