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The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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Our economy is an abstract intangible system which requires infinite growth and debt issuance, this in reality requires more caloric expenditure and resource consumption. Thermodynamically this is pretty bad news. At one point the see-saw is gonna tip the other way, then it might cool off for a spell.

When it tips the other way, we will be entering the economic dark ages, exactly proportional to how long we’ve been kicking this can down the road, which is likely since 2007 at least.

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

#172
post #63

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So we should not own pets, because the real polluters (companies) are lobbying to keep polluting? What bothers me so much about this idea of individual responsibility is that we get blamed for a choice we couldn't possibly make. It is up to the people in power to start making change, and it is important that people vote and educate themselves, but IMO this idea of individual responsibility for societal problems like…

There's multiple vegan brands for dogs and cats feed. If it looks "unnatural" I suggest some reflexions: - Most kibble's ingredients are not naturals - Most of the kibble's flesh comes from a non-natural production - Your pet health (and your own health) require some "nutrients" instead of "food types" Agree 100% societal decisions are more important than individual ones. However the choice in question could be made…

You should never restrict a cat to a vegan diet. That is very unhealthy for them.

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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There's multiple vegan brands for dogs and cats feed. If it looks "unnatural" I suggest some reflexions: - Most kibble's ingredients are not naturals - Most of the kibble's flesh comes from a non-natural production - Your pet health (and your own health) require some "nutrients" instead of "food types" Agree 100% societal decisions are more important than individual ones. However the choice in question could be made…

You should never restrict a cat to a vegan diet. That is very unhealthy for them.

Let me cite yourself:

> If you have data that supports this assertion, show it.

Aside personal anecdotic evidences of cats thriving after +10 years of vegetal feed, here's some:

> Considering these results overall, cats fed vegan diets tended to be healthier than cats fed meat-based diets. This trend was clear and consistent. These results largely concur with previous, similar studies

> In most cases differences between dietary groups were not statistically significant

[2023, 127 cats in the vegetal group] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjourn...

I admit that's not much, but If you think about it there's no reason a carnivore may not live healthy if provided the right nutrients, whatever the sources. Those nutrients are already well studied -especially for one of the two most common pet- and generously added in kibble because the base is often poorly balanced.

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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post #82

I wondered where this article got the idea that "half the planet" would die "in 26 years or less" with 3°C of warming. It appears to be a misreading of the table in https://actuaries.org.uk/media/ni4erlna/planetary-solvency.p... "Figure 12: Planetary solvency risk impact and likelihood definitions (illustrative)" qualified by "A risk impact matrix is a methodology for ranking potential impacts, not a prediction or ce…

The report does include a >50% human mortality extreme category and the author of the article is referring to a separate report suggesting 3°C is much more likely than expected. I think it's pretty reasonable to think that an extreme climate would cause extreme mortality. The report is pretty confusing to digest. But because you think that particular consequence is overstated in the article, you're suggesting that th…

> I think it's pretty reasonable to think that an extreme climate would cause extreme mortality.

Is this the standard of evidence we want to use to develop policies that will upend economies and impact the lives of billions of people? "It sounds about right"?

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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post #153

I guess time zones are driving a significantly US-centric response. My company works on climate repair. We're just a four person menlo park startup so far with some pilots in the field but we have a couple of billion in our sales pipeline, entirely based on people who have sought us out. Global spend on climate doubled last year and is on a tear this year. Recent events, from the closure of the gulf of Hormuz to the…

What is Climate repair? What is your company doing to repair the climate?

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

#177
post #49

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Which shows how badly the popular media cover hard news. "Social justice" is all the rage now thrown together with anything else that's exciting to watch on video.

What does this even mean? Are you talking about US media? Seems like a delusion to me. Social justice is yet another banned topic under conservative corporate ownership. Quick headline check: - Trump claims to have invented a word that exists - “Burger King’s New Whopper Strikes a Blow in Fast Food Wars” - “US strikes $1.2bn deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects” (is this a social justice topic?) - A…

And there it is

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

#178

I've always thought it's pretty obvious how all this climate change stuff will play out: - Yeah some govts reduce carbon emissions, but others don't care (china) or can't afford to focus on that (developing economies). - Climate activists will continue to act like we're to literally ruin the world (this is stupid). Climate change deniers will say temperature changes are just cyclical (also stupid). - On a global macr…

You might want to research such things as "feedback loops", the effects a high CO2 had in the past million year with extinction events and the almost impossible task of reversing the released CO2 and more. Climate scientists have studied these models for years now, real life is not a CIV game.

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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post #17

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And let’s also not forget, we all want the climate crises fixed, but nobody is willing to personally make any changes to their lifestyle! All parties are incentivized against fixing this problem.

at the end of the day 'personal changes' as a fix for climate change are just another lie big corporations fed us to make it feel like the onus was on a personal level. the amount of co2 that industries pollute and that various regulation would be able to change is multiple orders of magnitude compared to regular personal responsibility.

We should abolish oil companies and make sure the only place you can gas up your lifted truck is the Democratic People's Fuel Depot, that will solve climate change.

Re: The Gargantuan Lie That Is Collapsing the Climate

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You should never restrict a cat to a vegan diet. That is very unhealthy for them.

Let me cite yourself: > If you have data that supports this assertion, show it. Aside personal anecdotic evidences of cats thriving after +10 years of vegetal feed, here's some: > Considering these results overall, cats fed vegan diets tended to be healthier than cats fed meat-based diets. This trend was clear and consistent. These results largely concur with previous, similar studies > In most cases differences betw…

That's observational, self-reported data. In other words, completely worthless.
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