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ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

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Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

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Post by xyzelement »

What I got from reading the article - but not the headline or the comments.

- ICE is moving to start using cameras (currently not using them) so this move overall increases the amount of footage that exists and can be released.

- Their stayed approach is analogous to other law enforcement approaches already in use.

So the headline should be "ICE to start using body cameras". I suspect this is in general good news for ICE - most police departments that once felt "forced" to use body cameras have found that the cameras have been good for their image. Incidents that could have previously been trumpeted as an unjustified police action now have the context of what the suspect was doing just prior that justify the action. I think ICE is betting on the same and the "look what our agents have to deal with" footage may get public airplay into their favor.

We'll see

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#42

Post by pbnjeh »

Jail, jail, jail. Nothing less will stop these Gestapo-esque thugs.

And if you’re waiting for the mid-terms, you’re already acquiescing to their plans.

Also, it says something — to me, at least — that I have to think seriously before posting this. All I’m calling for is timely criminal prosecution of what I think and believe are crimes. I.e. for a lawful process. Yet doing so puts me at risk of an overbearing, unaccountable response?

This is some serious sh-t.

Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

#43

Post by xyzelement »

AnEro wrote: post #40

I've personally completely avoided the USA because of ICE, not because of principle of border policies purely from unpredictable treatment of people in custody with no recorse. Even if mistreatment are edge cases I've got no faith in the system to correct the wrong within itself. I've seen too many stories of legal americans and travelers not even getting bare minimum due process, or just being locked away for days n…

Where are you from?

Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

#45

Post by fscknpublic »

john_strinlai wrote: post #27
philipov wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't care what you think. You're not their target audience.

yes, i am aware, thanks. (that's why i wrote my opinion on a message board, instead of a letter addressed to the director of ice)

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Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

#46

Post by altcognito »

xyzelement wrote: post #41

What I got from reading the article - but not the headline or the comments. - ICE is moving to start using cameras (currently not using them) so this move overall increases the amount of footage that exists and can be released. - Their stayed approach is analogous to other law enforcement approaches already in use. So the headline should be "ICE to start using body cameras". I suspect this is in general good news for…

Yes, I too benefit from controlling the publicity, messaging, narrative and history surrounding my actions.

Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

#48

Post by fscknpublic »

augusto-moura wrote: post #16
vel0city wrote: post #3

The interests of ICE should be the same as the public's interest, same as any other domestic policing.

If the public interest is divided, what should be ICE's interest? This applies to other enforcing orgs too. Should it take the majority even if the debate is close to a tie? In most cases, what wins is the interests of people in power, for all domestic policing

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Re: ICE will release body cam video only when seen in the agency's 'best interests'

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Post by the__alchemist »

pbnjeh wrote: post #42

Jail, jail, jail. Nothing less will stop these Gestapo-esque thugs. And if you’re waiting for the mid-terms, you’re already acquiescing to their plans. Also, it says something — to me, at least — that I have to think seriously before posting this. All I’m calling for is timely criminal prosecution of what I think and believe are crimes. I.e. for a lawful process. Yet doing so puts me at risk of an overbearing, unacco…

All enemies, foreign and domestic.

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Post by effseven »

pbnjeh wrote: post #42

Jail, jail, jail. Nothing less will stop these Gestapo-esque thugs. And if you’re waiting for the mid-terms, you’re already acquiescing to their plans. Also, it says something — to me, at least — that I have to think seriously before posting this. All I’m calling for is timely criminal prosecution of what I think and believe are crimes. I.e. for a lawful process. Yet doing so puts me at risk of an overbearing, unacco…

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