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Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#15

I've been using it extensively since the release and the best summary I can give is that it's good enough to use it for (almost) everything and cheap enough that the cost are irrelevant. I'm running it in Oh My Pi with a second instance running as "advisor" and even with 5-6 active sessions (effectively 12 streams) I'm struggling to spend more than 5 bucks per day. OpenCode Go even has double limits temporarily so fo…

But DeepSeek now has a warning they’re going to sharply increase their API pricing sometime in the future.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#16
post #7

Price is confounded by VC subsidies, economies of scale, and inference optimizations. I think a more interesting chart would be ARC AGI vs forwards pass flops or ARC AGI vs training tokens. Of course we don't have those numbers for the closed source models or even some of the open weight ones.

DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 is an open-weights model which means price is determined by competition/invisible hand of the marketplace: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731

With the exception of cache costs, all providers have similar input/output costs.

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#18
post #2

results comparable to gpt 5.6 luna but cheaper promising!

Since the x-axis is log-scaled, DeepSeek is much cheaper than visually implied (mousing over the raw values, it's 1/4th the cost of Luna).

Is this pricing from Deepseek with training on usage?

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#19
post #15

I've been using it extensively since the release and the best summary I can give is that it's good enough to use it for (almost) everything and cheap enough that the cost are irrelevant. I'm running it in Oh My Pi with a second instance running as "advisor" and even with 5-6 active sessions (effectively 12 streams) I'm struggling to spend more than 5 bucks per day. OpenCode Go even has double limits temporarily so fo…

But DeepSeek now has a warning they’re going to sharply increase their API pricing sometime in the future.

Source?

Re: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731

#20
post #7

Price is confounded by VC subsidies, economies of scale, and inference optimizations. I think a more interesting chart would be ARC AGI vs forwards pass flops or ARC AGI vs training tokens. Of course we don't have those numbers for the closed source models or even some of the open weight ones.

weak argument. deepseek v4 flash is open weight, you can easily find other providers with competitive price with Deepseek (except for input caching), some even half as cheap.
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