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Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by crossroadsguy »

How does all this AI generated code blocking gappen? Does a human decide that or an AI is tasked with sequencing that PR's DNA to ascertain its possible inhuman origins?

What if someone generates code with AI and then goes into the IDE and then bathes it, dresses it (including adding comments) etc, in a way a human would? What then? No, here I am not exploring a way to fool the code DNA checking, but rather trying to find out what the real problem is with the AI generated code? (Other than license issues, too many PRs etc)

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by LetsGetTechnicl »

mbrumlow wrote: post #35

Policies like this will result in the death of the branded software. As we move forward it will be easier than ever to just maintain and keep your fork of software with the changes you want or need. No more approval, bureaucracy, or arguing. Just tell the AI agent want you want changed and you have it. This will be used for huge things too. Like maybe you want a specific fork of Java that only supports for each itera…

The idea of someone forking Java with vibe code nonsense and expecting them to be able to maintain is laughable.

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by dan_q »

mcdow wrote: post #48

y’all seem to be missing the fact that Java is a mature product. it has left the “move fast and break things” era of it’s development. code is a liability, and they likely have more to lose than gain by allowing AI contribution.

It's a clear admission that AI generated/assisted code is inadequate.

It's shocking given Oracle's AI spending spree over the last couple of years.

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by ImJamal »

27183 wrote: post #14

What happens to OpenJDK when Oracle dies? That's looking increasingly likely on a 3-5yr horizon.

IBM, Red Hat, Microsoft, SAP, Amazon and others all work on the JDK. They would have to step it up to cover the loss of Oracle's contributions, but I am sure they could manage.

Regardless, your timeframe on Oracle's death seems way too soon.

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by ghaff »

eddieroger wrote: post #47
bpodgursky wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I'm sure they are just paranoid about license rights.

I don't know, Oracle historically has a very chill, almost laissez-faire point of view on licensing.

That's hilarious. Why do you think ZFS isn't more broadly adopted in Linux?

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by dan_q »

mbrumlow wrote: post #35

Policies like this will result in the death of the branded software. As we move forward it will be easier than ever to just maintain and keep your fork of software with the changes you want or need. No more approval, bureaucracy, or arguing. Just tell the AI agent want you want changed and you have it. This will be used for huge things too. Like maybe you want a specific fork of Java that only supports for each itera…

LOL

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by dan_q »

jknoepfler wrote: post #45
cautiouscat wrote: post #23

I kind of get their overall point, even if it is ironic that Oracle is all in on AI. They don’t want a ton of contributions to review that weren’t made with care, adding burden to, as they put it: “already limited time of human reviewers”. Especially for a project that runs to many major businesses, this could pose a massive risk.

Let's just pause for a second and steep in the irony of "we're all in on AI, except where there are visible consequences." The same problems that bedevil AI-written PRs here bedevil AI-written PRs at my place of work. I'm sure it'll get better eventually, maybe, but something something Pareto principle.

> The same problems that bedevil AI-written PRs here bedevil AI-written PRs at my place of work.

>I'm sure it'll get better eventually, maybe

Why would it get better?

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by jknoepfler »

midnightbobarun wrote: post #7

So contributions to OpenJDK have to be hand-written, while internally, Oracle uses AI generated code... I guess the logic is that employees who use AI generated code (theoretically) review their code better? The whole thing still seems a little strange.

No, their internal PRs have the same problem, but they are pushing an AI narrative from the c-suite and can hide the reality of their private code bases.

The "limited ROI on AI investment" articles will continue to percolate slowly into the brains of the LinkedIn hive-mind until we hit a tipping point, and then we'll finally shut up about how a handy dev tool with some decent use-cases is the dawning of the singularity that will replace all white collar labor and get back to actually building business value.

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by [deleted] »

mbrumlow wrote: post #35

Policies like this will result in the death of the branded software. As we move forward it will be easier than ever to just maintain and keep your fork of software with the changes you want or need. No more approval, bureaucracy, or arguing. Just tell the AI agent want you want changed and you have it. This will be used for huge things too. Like maybe you want a specific fork of Java that only supports for each itera…

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