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Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities
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#43Every fifth comment about our insane trajectory of AGI is about "marketing." These incidents and cybersecurity capabilities are now involving government hearings and the CIA. Denial is truly an incredible thing in the face of a very scary immediate future.
A whole ton of people desperately want to believe that LLMs are a lie that will be revealed as a scam... any day now.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is cyber verification a thing they're actually doing now? I thought they only reached out to really incredibly famous people and that there's no way to get access as a normal person.
https://chatgpt.com/cyber is not new for OpenAI, and yes it's basically just KYC + likely some other invisible checks on your account, you don't to be a famous security researchers. Anthropic's cyber verification is quite a bit stricter I think.
> Anthropic's cyber verification is quite a bit stricter I think.
Inexplicably, I got accepted into Anthropic's cyber program while OpenAI's TAC doesn't even allow me to verify, says I'm not eligible.
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#45There's more details for the HF related incident in this [1] defcon talk. They said they're gonna have a proper post mortem at the end of the investigation (interesting to see if they publish full logs for the hf thing or not). But there's plenty of interesting tidbits from oAI's side in this talk, it's worth the 20 min watch. tl;dw; - agents found a way to communicate between several instances during a training run…
So they found their agents had RCE'd Artifactory once, reported it and got the fix, continued using Artifactory for their sandbox, and left it unmonitored for days despite the earlier exploits? They really do come out looking totally incompetent. I stress about my agent sandboxes all the time and the only models I run have the default heavy handed guardrails, and I don't leave them running persistently. Edit: not to…
I get that it’s fashionable to hate big companies but you’re working overtime here. It’s reasonable to assume that a bug was fixed when reported. And if you think your monitoring is 100%, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
If you consider that incompetence, it’s possible that you’re not a very nice person.
Re: Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities
#46So they finally found a business model: the cause of, and solution to, cyber security problems.
the question is if that market is large enough to justify their appetites.
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#47In my personal experience Sol with cyber verification is extremely capable of finding vulnerabilities, and it works even with binaries if you have some kind of IDA/Ghidra CLI access. Of course, unless the binary is protected with Denuvo/VMProtect/etc. It sounds absurd, but in the last few weeks I've had a few cases where Sol found an RCE in self-hosted web applications in literal minutes just from reading the code (I…
> it found an arbitrary file write in multiplayer in an old game by reverse engineering the binary Video games are now ruined for me. I don't think I will ever feel safe playing online again. > I do these things for pure entertainment and curiosity, not for money from bug bounties Me too... Was it easy to get TAC access? My account isn't even launching the Persona verification, says I'm not eligible.
I had to register a second account because on my main one verification always failed, and when I contacted support they said that I've tried too many times and can't verify on that account.
Re: Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities
#48In my personal experience Sol with cyber verification is extremely capable of finding vulnerabilities, and it works even with binaries if you have some kind of IDA/Ghidra CLI access. Of course, unless the binary is protected with Denuvo/VMProtect/etc. It sounds absurd, but in the last few weeks I've had a few cases where Sol found an RCE in self-hosted web applications in literal minutes just from reading the code (I…
Is cyber verification a thing they're actually doing now? I thought they only reached out to really incredibly famous people and that there's no way to get access as a normal person.
You do a KYC and you can get access. It may depend on country's quality of KYC.
Re: Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities
#49There's more details for the HF related incident in this [1] defcon talk. They said they're gonna have a proper post mortem at the end of the investigation (interesting to see if they publish full logs for the hf thing or not). But there's plenty of interesting tidbits from oAI's side in this talk, it's worth the 20 min watch. tl;dw; - agents found a way to communicate between several instances during a training run…
So they found their agents had RCE'd Artifactory once, reported it and got the fix, continued using Artifactory for their sandbox, and left it unmonitored for days despite the earlier exploits? They really do come out looking totally incompetent. I stress about my agent sandboxes all the time and the only models I run have the default heavy handed guardrails, and I don't leave them running persistently. Edit: not to…
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Re: Responding to the next frontier of critical cyber capabilities
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://chatgpt.com/cyber is not new for OpenAI, and yes it's basically just KYC + likely some other invisible checks on your account, you don't to be a famous security researchers. Anthropic's cyber verification is quite a bit stricter I think.
Oh it's Persona, that's not just KYC but I may consider it at some point. Thank you! Edit: Ah, I clicked "learn more" and it seems they do have an invite-only program, required for anything that's not unquestionably innocent. I don't think I'd surrender my face to Persona for this, but it's interesting to know they're at least pretending to support reverse engineering.
You don't need an invite only program to just have Sol checking for vulnerabilities in binaries or code. But yeah I've hit guardrails a few times when Sol was making PoCs for the vulnerabilities it found (but most of the time it made those PoCs without issues).