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Software is about people, not code (2020)

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Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every product is about investors .

Not really, even with a venture backed company. The investors only care if they believe there will be paying customers, and at the end of the day those are people. In many cases the customer and user are not the same (e.g. healthcare, Microsoft’s business, Google, et al)

Exactly, so the most important thing is convincing investors there will be paying customers.

Not having paying customers.

Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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Very weird title since it implies software is not about code which makes 0 sense. Yes, people skills are part of every profession but software jobs still hire based on how good your coding is primarily.

Don't they now hire based on AI token use?

touche

Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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Very weird title since it implies software is not about code which makes 0 sense. Yes, people skills are part of every profession but software jobs still hire based on how good your coding is primarily.

> software jobs still hire based on how good your coding is primarily ehhh. In my experience, being able to code is a necessary but not sufficient skill for a software developer. The only exceptions I've seen is having some extremely deep expertise in a niche technical field (and even then I wouldn't call that being able to code well, so much as technical domain knowledge). When I was hiring at AWS the view for my te…

Okay sure but would you say software is not about code? Yes of course people skills matter I get it but the baseline is still code, no? Isn't it then weird to say software is not about it but rather people?

Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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When I was a developer I thought “without me all the people in the building have nothing to sell and they can all just go home”. Then I spent a few years in sales (long story) and flipped 180 degrees. Without salespeople (and the customers they bring in) there would be nobody paying our salaries and we all could just go home.

Two things can be true simultaneously. Neither function works without the other.

The conjoined triangles of success.

Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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Close, but no. Software is about the mind, and its ability to shape (and be shaped by) its environment. Software was about "people" back when we had to pool our keystrokes together just to keep simple websites running - now we have the technical means to face the true nature of the problem, which is political: just like people have autonomy over their bodies, they deserve autonomy over their software, without having to rely on a corrupt and incompetent industry, addicted to ruining their own products for profit.

Re: Software is about people, not code (2020)

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When I was a developer I thought “without me all the people in the building have nothing to sell and they can all just go home”. Then I spent a few years in sales (long story) and flipped 180 degrees. Without salespeople (and the customers they bring in) there would be nobody paying our salaries and we all could just go home.

You should have stopped at 90 degrees ;)

Without salespeople you can't sell software. Without developers, you can't make software. Since we all have to pay bills, selling software is of crucial importance, but that doesn't make the developers less important. It just means that the society we live in makes those who sell as important as those who make. Just like we strive to evolve software development, we should also strive to evolve the society.

I've made software that people happily used without anyone selling it to them or me earning a single cent off of it. At my age, if I had the luxury of not having to worry about money, that's the kind of thing I would be doing all the time.

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