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Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by Daishiman »

purplemoonx wrote: post #10

Taste was all that was left when product design peaked in like 2010-12 too and it was a great time. But the advent of design systems and software like Sketch and Figma pretty much automated the job away. You didn’t need the raw Photoshop skills anymore - any CMU grad could be a top tier designer now. I see the same thing basically happening here. Taste will matter for a while but eventually people are just choosing t…

> Taste was all that was left when product design peaked in like 2010-12 too and it was a great time.

I'm not sure I agree. I spent a good chunk of those years converting designer's PS sketches into CSS. Bootstrap and friends were a godsend, because even if standard design systems over-optimize for mobile, they are still far more functional than most designers's mediocre and incomplete views of user experience.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by phendrenad2 »

mickael-kerjean wrote: post #232
phendrenad2 wrote: post #197

This post makes two mistakes. The first is an XKCD 605 (Extrapolating). The author makes bold predictions for the future as though they're inevitable, but gives zero evidence, because there is none, we're still at T=0. IBM is still in business. Wake me up when it's been taken out by someone vibe-designing a mainframe in kicad. Or even, let's see a dropbox clone get off the ground. Should be easy, right? (It's an HN t…

> dropbox clone get off the ground Thats exactly what Im working on: - web client: https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash - desktop sync: https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/fdrive In line with the infamous top comment during their launch, it does of course support FTP as a storage, and the other way around exposing your Dropbox as a FTP server, while supporting theme so you have a similar look and feel as well:…

Hey looks good. If you productize it and get subscribers that'll be awesome.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by MattyRad »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #431
lolpython wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has updated the bottom of the post to clarify that it was not AI-generated. https://notashelf.dev/posts/taste-is-all-thats-left#post-mor...

Pangram says "100% AI-generated". I trust Pangram more than I trust this author's word.

Saying "more" seems generous. I don't trust Pangram at all, and I also don't trust the author at all. Both can be trustless charletans simultaneously, and I feel this speaks volumes about the state of digital media today.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by creshal »

lolpython wrote: post #424
cribbles wrote: post #411

For those keeping track, this is now (at least) the third wholly or partially AI-generated article on the theme of "taste" as enduring source of human comparative advantage to hit the HN front page. Previously: Taste in the age of AI and LLMs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47677241 You Had No Taste Before AI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45288551

The author has updated the bottom of the post to clarify that it was not AI-generated. https://notashelf.dev/posts/taste-is-all-thats-left#post-mor...

I'm sceptical, where are all these essays he was supposed to have learned this very distinct style from? I certainly don't remember seeing them.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by leptons »

creshal wrote: post #465
lolpython wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has updated the bottom of the post to clarify that it was not AI-generated. https://notashelf.dev/posts/taste-is-all-thats-left#post-mor...

I'm sceptical, where are all these essays he was supposed to have learned this very distinct style from? I certainly don't remember seeing them.

Just because LLMs exist does not mean people stopped writing themselves. I mean, some people did, but not everyone. It's a kind of AI psychosis to think or suspect that everything is LLM generated.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by Oarch »

kif wrote: post #448
MichaelDickens wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pangram says "100% AI-generated". I trust Pangram more than I trust this author's word.

Here's another AI detector I just built: text.indexOf("—") > -1

You know, ever since em-dashes blew up due to their use as LLMs detectors I've been using them more and more in my writing. They're great!

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by jefftk »

lolpython wrote: post #424
cribbles wrote: post #411

For those keeping track, this is now (at least) the third wholly or partially AI-generated article on the theme of "taste" as enduring source of human comparative advantage to hit the HN front page. Previously: Taste in the age of AI and LLMs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47677241 You Had No Taste Before AI - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45288551

The author has updated the bottom of the post to clarify that it was not AI-generated. https://notashelf.dev/posts/taste-is-all-thats-left#post-mor...

I think they're trolling us. Their post-mortem is a very AI-sounding (and Pangram-triggering) claim that they're not using AI:

This post reads off as AI slop. You said it, I see it. I’m sincerely sorry for publishing something that has allowed you to feel this way. If my word means anything to you, I would like to assure you that this post was not authored by a LLM. Nor was it storyboarded, reviewed, checked, etc. by a LLM. Some readers have pointed out that people do not speak this way. That is correct. I do not speak, nor usually write, like this and this post will go down as my not-the-proudest, however, I take your criticism to heart—although not personally—and strive to improve.

I do write like this sometimes. The short sentences, the reversals, the one-word lines—all of it. It’s just the way it is. A LLM writes that way too, because it was trained on the same essays I grew up reading, so me doing it badly and a machine doing it look about the same to you on the page. That says something about my writing. It says nothing about who wrote it.

So let me be plain about it: Claude was not here. No LLM wrote this—not a sentence of it, nor was it outlined, drafted, reviewed, checked, etc. by one, and there is no prompt behind it either. It is just me, writing worse than usual. I will write the next one plainer. Next time, write to me. I too am a person behind this screen.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by ranprieur »

People in this thread are using the phrase "AI slop" as if everything made by AI is automatically slop. If you believe this, fair enough, but then you must support the abolition of AI.

If you believe that AI is capable of making good things, then it doesn't matter whether this article, or anything, was AI generated. Whatever it is -- software, prose, images -- if you have taste, you don't have to figure out if it was made by AI or not. All you have to do is apply taste and determine how good it is.

Re: Taste Is All That's Left

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Post by no_multitudes »

rpdillon wrote: post #457
MichaelDickens wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pangram says "100% AI-generated". I trust Pangram more than I trust this author's word.

Pangram is a complete scam. There is no durable way to detect whether something was written with AI. I've had folks say they ran pangram on my writing and it was "100% AI". Except I don't use AI to write or edit anything I post publicly.

Can you give some examples of your writing that trigger "100% AI" on pangram? I'm very interested in studying pangram's false positives. Especially if it's something published before ~2024
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