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U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

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Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

#172

firstly :: "economy" cannot lose jobs because it doesn't have any. Secondly :: there is absolutely no way for you to know it.

That’s just nitpicking words and yes you can tell from payroll

Thanks you for your kind reply. Calling it nitpicking doesn't make it untrue and payrolls are not public. To come up with factual data, one needs do some investigative journalism, and nbcnews' not one of them.

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

#173

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Part of the Obamacare mandate was forcing young men into health insurance policies when in the past they had a much higher opt out percentage.

Sure, but that's not what's driving these increases in costs.

Why not? Higher demand -> Higher prices.

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

#175

What is also interesting is that the only sector thad added jobs was health care.

there's a massive wave of elderly coming (boomer generation) so it makes sense health care is going to becoming an even bigger economic force than it already is.

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

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Nonsense. We can and do downgrade folks from better to worse employment all the time, even moreso during this administration! Can't have the plebes unionizing or getting more compensation.

in the grand scheme of things 23,000 isn't a big number and mostly a seasonal variability during summer, nothing to do with unions or Trump (I know people love to blame him for everything).

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

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Singapore is the beneficiary of a neighboring impoverished itinerant workforce to supplement its own collapsing demographics with artificially cheap services. It’s hardly replicable most places.

So is the USA...

No it isn’t. Malaysians commute across the river daily and then return at night, having provided their services in exchange for compensation. Singapore gets the work without many of the associated problems with housing those people long term. As a result, there are some ridiculously niche jobs in Singapore that would not exist in another rich country, such as widespread domestic servitude and manual street sweeping

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect Any sector that's resistant to productivity growth is liable to become bigger and bigger part of the economy.

yeah but the size of the us healthcare sector (like 18%) is a policy choice, other developed countries have theirs at 10-12%. U.S. healthcare is a giant predatory clusterfuck and seems impossible to meaningfully reform.

Like the US Justice system, the best advice to give is to avoid the US Healthcare system as much as possible.

Re: U.S. economy lost 23,000 jobs in July, a sudden reversal

#180

As a data scientist it is very frustrating to see a consistent lack of error bars on these numbers or any discussion about the magnitude of uncertainty around them by all news reports every time these numbers get released

The bureau of labor statistics publishes confidence intervals in their reports

Not in their primary news release. A footnote says it is "generally conducted at the 90% interval", but the individual numbers do not have their actual computed error bars.

Yes, they do publish them, but it is disappointing their primary releases do not have them.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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