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US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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Post by ricardobayes »

namdnay wrote: post #618
ricardobayes wrote: post #513

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Yes, most households don't have the 25-30k available to switch to heat pumps. If we dig deep I think we partially solved why people don't have kids anymore in Europe: for that you need optimism, and to be told every few years even something basic as your heating system is due to be illegal (!) doesn't really fill people with optimism. Same thing with banning internal combustion engined-cars, which was reversed too...…

Where are you getting 25-30k from? A standard split that can handle 25m2 is 1-2k, with one in each bedroom you’re fine

Yes that is a split A/C, which is also a form of heat pump, that's not really what people refer to as heat pumps by default in Europe. A heat pump is normally an air-to-water system here, which drives either radiators or heated floors. Heating with an A/C is practically unknown in most of Europe and definitely not the desired choice for most people here (even though it would make sense).

Re: US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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Post by db48x »

glaslong wrote: post #225
db48x wrote: post #148

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Was there a good reason not to build there? It seems at a glance like we should have just built the turbines, not paid off or stiffed them. Since we seem to desperately need more energy, currently expanding with every other short term high polluting source we can.

That’s a separate issue, and irrelevant to the issue of cancelling the lease early.

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Post by throwaway613746 »

zeezer0 wrote: post #197
jfengel wrote: post #142

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No, we're not expecting someone else to stop it. We voted for this. The evil is not imposed on us. It is us. Not everyone, but a majority. The minority is looking for ways to stop it, but it requires getting literally everyone else to work together. Which means any disagreement among them results in a loss, and more of the same evil.

It's not a majority at all. it's a manipulating minority.

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Post by epihelix »

saagarjha wrote: post #4

> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies". I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?

I know it's not what you wanted to start here with this comment. But the silly, tangential, petty bickering in this thread goes a very long way to explain our failure to act to stop the catastrophe we've known was coming since the 80s.

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Post by patakhaguddi »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #485
whack wrote: post #370

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Never attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to self-interest. It sure looks stupid when you look at America or the Roman Empire as a whole. But when you look at the specific individuals doing these "stupid" things, and the individuals enabling them, it is perfectly aligned with their own best interests.

Yes, but as a nation, we are stupid to go along with it.

What is a nation but the people?

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Post by Anon1096 »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #573
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #493

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I'm fond of Netflix?

Wouldn't need datacentres if we had IP multicast routing. And actually, Netflix doesn't need that anyway : anycast and telco CDNs get most of the advantages, albeit at the cost of only being available to established players. Netflix uses AWS because it's cheaper and easier for them, not because it's technically necessary: if AWS shut down (with enough notice), Netflix would migrate to an alternative system, and nothi…

You have no clue what you're talking about while trying to act smug and talking down to someone who knows at least a little bit more than you. Netflix cannot run without massive DCs, whether that be theirs or Amazon's.

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Post by lgl »

linux2647 wrote: post #545

> dangerous to wildlife Is this claim substantive at all?

Yes, if a turbine breaks it's possible it may hit the water and kill some fishes.

If a flock of flamingos or geese are doing a low pass it's possible they get shredded by them.

If Godzilla tries to get out of the water near them it's possible it gets hit in the head. Also he may destroy them since Godzilla is, as we all know, a nuclear energy proponent.

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Post by lesuorac »

jfengel wrote: post #464
RobotToaster wrote: post #318

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Less than half of people who voted voted for Trump, and turnout was 64%. Being allowed to chose between two evils every few years isn't democracy.

Democracy is only ever choosing between two evils. You will never agree entirely with either candidate. In order to reach a majority, you will have to reach some kind of compromise with people with goals you hate. As has been famously stated, democracy is the worst system, except for all of the others. I think people often underestimate just how bad it is.

You should never need to pick between just two candidates though.

The need for any sort of alternative system to first-past-the-post should've been plainly obvious in the '00 election. The problem is the people that could change that were elected under a first-past-the-post system and don't want to lose their current advantage.

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