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US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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Post by zelphirkalt »

throw0101d wrote: post #199
chewbacha wrote: post #18

Parts of the world are literally on fire but the US is redirecting money to halt renewables and towards gas. The demand for energy is higher than ever due to AI data centers, but I guess the next model is more important than a habitable environment.

> Parts of the world are literally on fire but the US is redirecting money to halt renewables and towards gas. Parts of the US are literally on fire. * https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/usfs/map/#d:24hrs;@-100... * https://wfca.com/fire-map * https://www.nifc.gov/fire-information/maps

The issue will be "out of sight, out of mind" (or rather knowingly ignored) until the issue appears at scales as small as the home village, which in terms of the US government means the front and back yard of the white house or similar.

These people are living in parallel societies, where they are completely detached from the reality for many people living in the country. And that is not merely a problem in the US.

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Post by neuronic »

_joel wrote: post #22
juntoalaluna wrote: post #12

Insane. Over the last year, wind - mostly offshore - has generated more than 35% of electricity here. Gas is down to 27%. It's really, really good. And it looks cool.

Not great for the wildlife during drilling but it's better than the carbon rich alternatives.

No energy source producing the required amounts to run civilization will be non-disruptive to wildlife and the environment. But perfect is the enemy of good.

Renewable energy sources heavily reduce this factor, make countries more independent from imports (other countries) and slow down the catastrophic effects of increased atmospheric energy due to greenhouse effect of carbon-based energy sources.

Conservatives should be the top number one supporters of renewable energy because of more independence from other governments and better conservation of the environment.

But alas, the only thing they like to preserve is their personal greed.

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Post by blondie9x »

We are outraged. We know we are nearly the climate abyss. We see the changes all around us. What are we going to do to collectively to change course? To right the ship?

I wrote a book on the issue. I think the next best thing we can do is work together to amplify our voices to the point ignoring us is no longer politically convenient.

https://sustainedminimalist.com/book

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Post by teamonkey »

dspillett wrote: post #244
scotty79 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common sense is the sense of commoners. The entirity of science if a fight against common sense. In Poland the closest phrase to "common sense" is "na chłopski rozum" which means "according to villager's mind/smarts".

A significant part of science is plucking the true bits from common sense. A fair chunk of what we call medicine is folk remedies that stood up to rigorous testing.

Yes, but the testing bit is what makes it a scientifically-proven method and not a folk remedy.

There are also a lot of folk remedies that have been disproven as medicine. They too were ‘common sense.’

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Post by navane »

estearum wrote: post #218
epolanski wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US is rich in fossil energy so it doesn't have the same incentives as China does obviously.

Someone who is "rich" in a consumable asset and therefore chooses to just consume that instead of investing in a renewable or compounding asset is colloquially known as "a dumbass."

And it's called "dutch disease".

We did it with gas. Now look at Norway. We could've been like Norway.

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Post by neuronic »

josh-wrale wrote: post #129
TeMPOraL wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is great for wildlife, including leaving it alone and undisturbed, because nature doesn't care if animals are happy, or even if they exist.

I’m thinking you mean that nature does not possess the ability to care at all.

Nature does have the ability to care unless you postulate that humans aren’t part of nature.

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Post by happosai »

PowerElectronix wrote: post #183
carlosjobim wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That leaves a lot of free energy sources untapped - especially hydro.

If you can set up a hydro/pump dam without wrecking the ecosystem and don't need handouts to function, I'm all for it.

People complaining about renewal electricity production with hydro/pump dams while ignoring mountaintop removal of Appalachian mountains for coal...
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