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New Mexico court orders Meta to pay $567m over harms to children’s mental health

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In what aspect is Playboy magazines superior?

There’s a single naked woman in it. No hard bum, oral, every cavity sex. Have you ever held a Playboy magazine in your hand?

I guess "superior" is subjective

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Ah yes, the good old "cigarettes and alcohol should be freely available to kids" lobby logic, like it's the 60s and 70s again.

Cigarettes and alcohol are freely available to kids

They're usually covered by age limit laws and also not "free" as they cost money to purchase. In what sense are they available freely to kids?

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This ruling is absurd. The "harm" alleged could be produced not only by any social media, but by any mass media. But this ruling is really not about that-- it is a shot across the bow of Facebook and the rest of Big Tech warning them to get in line with the official propaganda or the US government will make their lives very difficult. Notice how this wasn't happening to Facebook when they were banning anyone that pos…

Meta purposely targeted preteens with a corporate strategy to get them addicted to social media

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Ah yes, the good old "cigarettes and alcohol should be freely available to kids" lobby logic, like it's the 60s and 70s again.

Cigarettes and alcohol are freely available to kids

No, they're not. Not in most of the US and not compared to social media/porn. This is disingenuous.

The average 13 year old in the US cannot easily get a cigarette or a beer. Not impossible of course, but not as easy as porn/instagram.

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If you ban the latter, the former will proliferate in secret until it becomes the dominant culture.

it already is the dominant culture. just look at the birth rate, as well reported damage from hardcore sex eg anal fissure rates, as well the existence of the western term gooning.

> it already is the dominant culture. just look at the birth rate, as well reported damage from hardcore sex eg anal fissure rates, as well the existence of the western term gooning.

When I was about 10, playground rumour was that alllllll men who have sex with men end up in hospital for torn anuses ("my mum says so and she's a nurse!"; I did not believe this at the time, but I was 10 and this was 1993, what was I going to say to that?)

If you think the mere "existence of the western term gooning" says much of anything about changes due specifically to internet culture, you've not seen the ancient erotic collections in museums. The internet makes it more difficult to be ignorant of the diversity of the human condition; in the past it was still diverse, but easier to ignore those differences.

What does seem to have actually changed (though even here it is difficult to be certain) is that our exposure to presentations of "perfection" has resulted in reality being dissatisfying: people still want relationships with other people, but reject potential partners who are in real life anything less than 9/10 on a scale of "how hard did you go on an Instagram filter after also going hard on makeup and even then this is scored on a curve from the best that the algorithm decided to show me?"

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Cigarettes and alcohol are freely available to kids

They're usually covered by age limit laws and also not "free" as they cost money to purchase. In what sense are they available freely to kids?

"Freely available" doesn't mean they are free of charge, but that they can be obtained at any time with minimal effort.

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You think they'll shutdown FB?

Zuck has a finite lifespan.

Actually, it’s infinite because he’s really good at fighting now (and wears a cool chain). Kachow!

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A lot of people on this story are making the usual snarky remarks that, oh, this is just a slap on the wrist—some trivial proportion of Meta’s global revenue. And that is true, but unlike the EU, for example, New Mexico is a tiny jurisdiction. It only has a little bit more than 2 million people. So actually, a fine—or a judgment—of $942 million that applies just to New Mexico is enormous. If you look at Meta’s revenu…

This analysis actually understates how massive and outsized the penalties are. The court ruling only applies to children in New Mexico under age 18. New Mexico has ~450,000 people under age 18, of which roughly 140,000 are between ages 13-17 (Meta officially requires age 13+ to use their platforms). Recent Pew surveys of U.S. teens ages 13–17 show ~70% of teenagers use Instagram and ~30% use Facebook. In New Mexico,…

IDK, even if you take your analysis to the extreme and say only 1% of those children suffered actual harm, it doesn’t seem unreasonable that the cost would be > $725k each, measured in impact to lifetime earnings plus the costs to their parents and community.

There’s a good argument for using the funds to support mental health programs, but as far as paying for damage done, Meta is getting off very light here. Classic privatize profits, socialize costs.

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I think a lot of us probably would agree that pornographic content is generally bad for society. I think the hard part here is actually getting rid of it. I think what will end up happening is it moves to a darker part of the web and is completely unregulated. Just look at what happened in the US with illegal drugs. They didn’t just go away, and now we have less safe drugs pretty much freely available laced with fent…

> I think a lot of us probably would agree that pornographic content is generally bad for society. Speak for yourself. The science of it seems to be a mixed bag with definite pros and cons. You're talking about something that is also intrinsic to humanity . It takes no resources. Good luck with that.

Neither porn nor gore is intrinsic to society

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> I think a lot of us probably would agree that pornographic content is generally bad for society. Speak for yourself. The science of it seems to be a mixed bag with definite pros and cons. You're talking about something that is also intrinsic to humanity . It takes no resources. Good luck with that.

Neither porn nor gore is intrinsic to society

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