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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

It's true, Microsoft made github worse, but the more recent issues seem to have to do a lot more with Microsoft selling its soul to AI. Microsoft really appears to have gotten dumber as they became dependent on AI. Most recent example: they used to promote Win11 and 32GB RAM. Now they are down to 8GB silently ... this is quite hilarious. There are now so many side effects that you see degradation in so many other are…

>they used to promote Win11 and 32GB RAM.

Its common knowledge that Win11 needs 32gb RAM, but im glad to hear that Microsoft is aware of it.

Looking forward to this 8gb variant :)

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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I guess github is kind of a shared garden. Interesting that, like in game theory, if everyone is using it too much, no one gets to use it.

charge more for it. its fine if free customers dont have service. dont break paying customers

This. I use GitHub for free, and I'm incredibly grateful for the amount of stuff they provide. I don't mind my Actions going down once in a while.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

GitHub Actions was always a mess. Because it is a Microsoft product. If you want to have a horrible time, try reading some of the runner code. It's early 2010s-style Windows-First, MSFT C# crud that has trouble not racing several threads to inconclusive status codes.

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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Which is somewhat humorous because it was arguably more stable when they ran on their own hosted colo infra before moving to Azure. This was a choice versus keeping the infra compartmentalized and using Azure for elastic overflow compute needs. I'm sure marketing and bonuses rest on throwing it all on the Azure quicksand though. GitHub Will Prioritize Migrating to Azure Over Feature Development - https://news.ycombin…

It pleases shareholders more to hear about exponential Cloud offering adoption than SLA availability for a developer platform.

Except, lots of devs use github, and see what using Azure means. Management is seeing that downtime too. So what insane person will ever touch Azure willingly?

Hotmail used to run on bsd, and they tried to move it to WinNT, back in the day. Same thing. Disaster. And it was held up as a reason to never use winnt for serious work, for years.

Microsoft just always shoots themselves in the foot.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products. Windows NT was one of them. Up to Windows XP the products were pretty solid and each had visible improvement against the previous one. Their language products were/are still solid IMO. Maybe Visual Studio is sluggish, but we can still use an older version if we want. Plus they put a lot of effort optimizing VSCode, too. Even back in the MS-DOS/16-bit Windo…

reliable? Windows is the only operating system you have to constantly reinstall because it gets slower after a few months. To the point people think it's totally normal to do that!

Wait. That's not normal?

My WSL instances end up getting overwritten when I reinstall Windows so I thought that was just a general OS thing...

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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GHA still beats Circle CI or trying to run your own Jenkins - even with all the downtime. I'd move in a heartbeat if there were good alternatives.

gitlab self hosted though? no outage. i remember equivalent functionality at my last job taking this path

That's not just moving actions though, that's moving _everything_ and taking on the maintenance of running it yourself.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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GitHub is different because they need to scale writes , that’s fundamentally a much much harder problem

Which wasn't a problem before MS acquisition. Git is the write intensive process. It scaled to millions of contributors. Then couldn't keep scaling. But sure if you believe the narrative and blame ai bots.

GitHub had 30 million users in 2018 when it was acquired by Microsoft. This year alone they added 30 million users for total of 180 million. So pre-Microsoft GitHub faced very different problems compared to post-Microsoft GitHub not even considering poor management or AI. They're by far the largest platform of its kind, so I'm sure the problems are uniquely difficult to solve.
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