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US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

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> Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies". I agree. This is why we are building offshore wind and not subsidizing fossil fuels, right?

All kinds of power generation are typically heavily subdized in some way. I do not think this "common sense" strategy exists.

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#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We also need to use less total energy, regardless of source. That number doesn't have to always go up.

That number directly correlates with life quality in almost every country on earth. More energy per capita means higher life quality, without a doubt in every high quality place.

You say that like it’s an infinitely scalable proposition? It really isn’t.

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Not great for the wildlife during drilling but it's better than the carbon rich alternatives.

Global warming is also killing wildlife. And by many magnitudes more than drilling some holes for offshore wind parks.

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We need more energy. We should be doing this, gas, nuclear, solar. Not either or.

We also need to use less total energy, regardless of source. That number doesn't have to always go up.

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Not the North Sea, nothing to do with transmission in Germany. Bad summary, bot(?).

  German energy company RWE has said it will abandon its offshore wind projects in the US after reaching a $1.2bn (£892m) payout deal with President Donald Trump's Department of the Interior (DoI).

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#56

Meanwhile China is becoming entirely energy independent and electrifying their economy. I don't understand how the US doesn't see that they won't be top dog forever especially in this multipolar age.

They still mostly rely on coal. Slightly more than half of electricity is generated by burning coal, whereas in the US, it's only 15%. The renewable energy share in generation is roughly the same in the US and China, but not for capacity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We also need to use less total energy, regardless of source. That number doesn't have to always go up.

That number directly correlates with life quality in almost every country on earth. More energy per capita means higher life quality, without a doubt in every high quality place.

What about quality of life per watt and just making having a certain standard of living more energy efficient?

Simple examples: energy efficient lights seem to have no downsides, better insulation helps my apartment building retain heat, more efficient electronics mean that my homelab servers pull like 100 W total and public transport probably removes a bunch of cars from the road and increases air quality and decreases traffic jams (I can get everywhere I need that way, there’s literally train, tram and bus stops like 5-15 minutes away).

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Also, > The administration signed a similar $129bn (£96bn) agreement with Charlotte-based Duke Energy last month in exchange for the termination of the company's offshore wind lease in the Carolina Long Bay area.

I had to check that, It is 129 million

Indeed: https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-announces-energy-...

Re: US strikes $1.2B deal to pay German firm to halt offshore wind projects

#60
One of my guiltier pleasures is reading r/Conservative to see which knots they're tying themselves in today defending some of his more insance ideas. In the unlikely event this surfaces up beyond some rage-bait culture war story they've found on Breitbart, I will enjoy reading their thoughts on why this is 4d chess†

†: in fairness to them, they are almost uniformly opposed to Trump's adventurism in Iran and mostly not supportive of the Jan 7th slush-fund, and will call out both when pressed

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